SUNS 2014: Free Agency
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I still don't understand, but whatever.
Hayward was planning a free agent visit here after his visit to Charlotte. Charlotte (unlike Cleveland before them) offered him a max contract so he accepted it and cancelled his visit to Phoenix. That's all Rick Bonnell was reporting.
Was he not supposed to report that or was Hayward supposed to still come to Phoenix despite committing to Charlotte?
Hayward was planning a free agent visit here after his visit to Charlotte. Charlotte (unlike Cleveland before them) offered him a max contract so he accepted it and cancelled his visit to Phoenix. That's all Rick Bonnell was reporting.
Was he not supposed to report that or was Hayward supposed to still come to Phoenix despite committing to Charlotte?
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Just speculating here, but maybe Hayward went to Charlotte, found he would really fit in well with the rest of the team there. They offered him the max, which Utah can still match, you can't get better money anywhere. So, Charlotte tells him that if he goes to Phoenix, the offer is off the table. Why wouldn't he do it?
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This is more than likely what happened. Also, if Utah is going to match, does it really matter which team he signs an offer sheet with?In2ition wrote:Just speculating here, but maybe Hayward went to Charlotte, found he would really fit in well with the rest of the team there. They offered him the max, which Utah can still match, you can't get better money anywhere. So, Charlotte tells him that if he goes to Phoenix, the offer is off the table. Why wouldn't he do it?
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Ha! The gift of hindsight.
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So on to Chandler Parsons then?
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Doubt it.Wally_West wrote:So on to Chandler Parsons then?
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Maybe - definitely need another 4 incase Brown proves not ready, although Frye's timid play said the same through most of his stint here.Wally_West wrote:So on to Chandler Parsons then?
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If we sign Parsons to be a 4, we're definitely doing it wrong.
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I think Parsons could log minutes as a stretch 4 he just can't defend legitimate PFs for shit.
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Are you kidding me?! I think most of us feel that way.In2ition wrote:Seriously? You are calling McDonough an idiot? I may be the only one here that feels this way, but your hate for McDonough is just silly and unfounded. You are only just guessing that the Lakers only wanted the Pacers pick for Pau, yet you love him like he was... your lover. You haven't come up with a single plan that I remember that was better, even with the gift of hindsight, than what McDonough has done.SDC wrote:gasol would have been a good fit, assuming the suns kept everybody together. now that frye's gone, a key player in the suns surprise run last season, pau doesnt make sense anymore. idiot mcdo is too slow to sign pau to a one year deal. it might have convinced frye to stay with the suns if the suns were trying to get better.Gladiator wrote:I don't think Deng or Gasol are good fits on this roster at this time, especially for what they'll be asking ($s and length of contract)Ring_Wanted wrote:Oh, and please just don't go after Deng. Pau still makes sense for this roster but spending on those two means not more cap space and it's far from a given that they can live up to the length of their contracts, unless it is two years.
SF and a (two way) big man are our most glaring weaknesses but Deng-Pau won't elevate the team more than to make us a lock for the playoffs, at best. I want to make that progress but this just doesn't feel like a sustainable way to achieve it. If that's the best they can fo in free agency I'd explore trading for players under contract on capped out/rebuilding teams. And if they absolutely must use the cap space on a FA, just overpay for a younger RFA who at least have the best years of his career ahead of him.
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Sorry but LANCE BLANKS> McDoubt everyday of the week!Superbone wrote:Are you kidding me?! I think most of us feel that way.In2ition wrote:Seriously? You are calling McDonough an idiot? I may be the only one here that feels this way, but your hate for McDonough is just silly and unfounded. You are only just guessing that the Lakers only wanted the Pacers pick for Pau, yet you love him like he was... your lover. You haven't come up with a single plan that I remember that was better, even with the gift of hindsight, than what McDonough has done.SDC wrote:gasol would have been a good fit, assuming the suns kept everybody together. now that frye's gone, a key player in the suns surprise run last season, pau doesnt make sense anymore. idiot mcdo is too slow to sign pau to a one year deal. it might have convinced frye to stay with the suns if the suns were trying to get better.Gladiator wrote:I don't think Deng or Gasol are good fits on this roster at this time, especially for what they'll be asking ($s and length of contract)Ring_Wanted wrote:Oh, and please just don't go after Deng. Pau still makes sense for this roster but spending on those two means not more cap space and it's far from a given that they can live up to the length of their contracts, unless it is two years.
SF and a (two way) big man are our most glaring weaknesses but Deng-Pau won't elevate the team more than to make us a lock for the playoffs, at best. I want to make that progress but this just doesn't feel like a sustainable way to achieve it. If that's the best they can fo in free agency I'd explore trading for players under contract on capped out/rebuilding teams. And if they absolutely must use the cap space on a FA, just overpay for a younger RFA who at least have the best years of his career ahead of him.
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But I'm a lone nut - that means P.J. Tucker needs gone in a bad way.....carey wrote:Some good news for Swingy.
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Gonna get some mileage out of that one, huh? :pSwingMan wrote:
But I'm a lone nut - that means P.J. Tucker needs gone in a bad way.....
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Why not? It's already down there - might as well not let it turn into roadkill.carey wrote:Gonna get some mileage out of that one, huh? :pSwingMan wrote:
But I'm a lone nut - that means P.J. Tucker needs gone in a bad way.....
What's your take on Tucker, anyways?
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Haha, I didn't want to speak for everyone.Superbone wrote:Are you kidding me?! I think most of us feel that way.In2ition wrote:Seriously? You are calling McDonough an idiot? I may be the only one here that feels this way, but your hate for McDonough is just silly and unfounded. You are only just guessing that the Lakers only wanted the Pacers pick for Pau, yet you love him like he was... your lover. You haven't come up with a single plan that I remember that was better, even with the gift of hindsight, than what McDonough has done.SDC wrote:gasol would have been a good fit, assuming the suns kept everybody together. now that frye's gone, a key player in the suns surprise run last season, pau doesnt make sense anymore. idiot mcdo is too slow to sign pau to a one year deal. it might have convinced frye to stay with the suns if the suns were trying to get better.Gladiator wrote:I don't think Deng or Gasol are good fits on this roster at this time, especially for what they'll be asking ($s and length of contract)Ring_Wanted wrote:Oh, and please just don't go after Deng. Pau still makes sense for this roster but spending on those two means not more cap space and it's far from a given that they can live up to the length of their contracts, unless it is two years.
SF and a (two way) big man are our most glaring weaknesses but Deng-Pau won't elevate the team more than to make us a lock for the playoffs, at best. I want to make that progress but this just doesn't feel like a sustainable way to achieve it. If that's the best they can fo in free agency I'd explore trading for players under contract on capped out/rebuilding teams. And if they absolutely must use the cap space on a FA, just overpay for a younger RFA who at least have the best years of his career ahead of him.
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Tucker is the guts of our team. I want him back.
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With Frye gone, I think that's a really good idea. He might not be the most talented player at his position, but he offers so much more than just production on the court and he keeps working on his game and offers a toughness and grit that's contagious all the way down the line in the roster.
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I think we should resign Tucker, match Bledsoe, and offer Monroe a contract. I think if we frame the contract right the Pistons will let him go, that'd be too much money tied up on their frontcourt.