I can't really even handle Suns centric podcasts, not to mention the stuff for other teams. Are you a basketball sadist or something?In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:46 pmThe problem is that it was going on all game. I'm not surprised that they didn't call it in the last 2 minutes, since these refs were going to allow the Mavs to lower the shoulder, dislodge the defender and then extend the arm when they are off their feet to give another little push to create space, then they expected the ref to call a foul on the defender. At the same time, they didn't give the Suns the same type of calls for the contact that they were getting from the Mavs. It was really frustrating to watch.
I listened to Locked on Mavs this morning and those guys thought that the game wasn't refereed fairly and thought if he was called the same way on both sides, that the Mavs would have shot 50 freethrows. There are levels to homerism, but sheesh...
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Yea I didn't read it right and was confused by to/through. But it's still bullshit and should've been offensive.Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:03 pmThat says correct non call…it does say Luka had an offensive foul against CP3 earlierShelC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:40 pmLooks like they acknowledge that it was an offensive foul on that last push off with 7 seconds left before the scrum and techs
https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport. ... 0022200962
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I like to hear alternative POVs. I can agree or disagree with them and even sometime clown them for their takes. Tbh, they are 10x more entertaining than Brendan Kleen is on Locked on Suns, so it's not so bad.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:57 pmI can't really even handle Suns centric podcasts, not to mention the stuff for other teams. Are you a basketball sadist or something?In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:46 pmThe problem is that it was going on all game. I'm not surprised that they didn't call it in the last 2 minutes, since these refs were going to allow the Mavs to lower the shoulder, dislodge the defender and then extend the arm when they are off their feet to give another little push to create space, then they expected the ref to call a foul on the defender. At the same time, they didn't give the Suns the same type of calls for the contact that they were getting from the Mavs. It was really frustrating to watch.
I listened to Locked on Mavs this morning and those guys thought that the game wasn't refereed fairly and thought if he was called the same way on both sides, that the Mavs would have shot 50 freethrows. There are levels to homerism, but sheesh...
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Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
No duh. (Not shooting the messenger.)ShelC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:40 pmLooks like they acknowledge that it was an offensive foul on that last push off with 7 seconds left before the scrum and techs
https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport. ... 0022200962
ETA: Even after reading they deem it a non-call. Why?
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If they're not going to make that an offensive foul, fine. But they can't then call a defensive foul if Okogie stands his ground and Luka puts his body into him when going up for the shot. I'm 100% certain they'd have made that call if Okogie didn't try to "sell" the offensive foul, so it was really his only option.ShelC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:11 pmYea I didn't read it right and was confused by to/through. But it's still bullshit and should've been offensive.Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:03 pmThat says correct non call…it does say Luka had an offensive foul against CP3 earlierShelC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:40 pmLooks like they acknowledge that it was an offensive foul on that last push off with 7 seconds left before the scrum and techs
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Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
When Wood lowered his shoulder into Craig three consecutive times in a row on the same play with no call, I think they would have called it if Craig had sold it. You get penalized for being able to take a hit in the NBA. But to your point, Okogie may have oversold it. It's all about just the right amount of acting in the NBA to get the calls.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:25 pmIf they're not going to make that an offensive foul, fine. But they can't then call a defensive foul if Okogie stands his ground and Luka puts his body into him when going up for the shot. I'm 100% certain they'd have made that call if Okogie didn't try to "sell" the offensive foul, so it was really his only option.ShelC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:11 pmYea I didn't read it right and was confused by to/through. But it's still bullshit and should've been offensive.Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:03 pmThat says correct non call…it does say Luka had an offensive foul against CP3 earlierShelC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:40 pmLooks like they acknowledge that it was an offensive foul on that last push off with 7 seconds left before the scrum and techs
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Those are different POVs in the same way one parents child is better than everyone else's and deserves every minute, shot, catch, etc..In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:18 pmI like to hear alternative POVs. I can agree or disagree with them and even sometime clown them for their takes. Tbh, they are 10x more entertaining than Brendan Kleen is on Locked on Suns, so it's not so bad.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:57 pmI can't really even handle Suns centric podcasts, not to mention the stuff for other teams. Are you a basketball sadist or something?In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:46 pmThe problem is that it was going on all game. I'm not surprised that they didn't call it in the last 2 minutes, since these refs were going to allow the Mavs to lower the shoulder, dislodge the defender and then extend the arm when they are off their feet to give another little push to create space, then they expected the ref to call a foul on the defender. At the same time, they didn't give the Suns the same type of calls for the contact that they were getting from the Mavs. It was really frustrating to watch.
I listened to Locked on Mavs this morning and those guys thought that the game wasn't refereed fairly and thought if he was called the same way on both sides, that the Mavs would have shot 50 freethrows. There are levels to homerism, but sheesh...
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I'd really love to sit down with an NBA ref and try to understand how that wasn't an offensive foul. And how come the 10 or so that preceded it weren't either.Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:21 pmNo duh. (Not shooting the messenger.)ShelC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:40 pmLooks like they acknowledge that it was an offensive foul on that last push off with 7 seconds left before the scrum and techs
https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport. ... 0022200962
ETA: Even after reading they deem it a non-call. Why?
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Idk if it's anything like you describe, but whatever.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:30 pmThose are different POVs in the same way one parents child is better than everyone else's and deserves every minute, shot, catch, etc..In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:18 pmI like to hear alternative POVs. I can agree or disagree with them and even sometime clown them for their takes. Tbh, they are 10x more entertaining than Brendan Kleen is on Locked on Suns, so it's not so bad.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:57 pmI can't really even handle Suns centric podcasts, not to mention the stuff for other teams. Are you a basketball sadist or something?In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:46 pmThe problem is that it was going on all game. I'm not surprised that they didn't call it in the last 2 minutes, since these refs were going to allow the Mavs to lower the shoulder, dislodge the defender and then extend the arm when they are off their feet to give another little push to create space, then they expected the ref to call a foul on the defender. At the same time, they didn't give the Suns the same type of calls for the contact that they were getting from the Mavs. It was really frustrating to watch.
I listened to Locked on Mavs this morning and those guys thought that the game wasn't refereed fairly and thought if he was called the same way on both sides, that the Mavs would have shot 50 freethrows. There are levels to homerism, but sheesh...
If its entertaining for you, then you do you. I don't find homerism entertaining in almost any iteration.
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Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
I think Okogie definitely sold it and I’m actually ok with it not being a foul, but the return, like FF said, needs to be that the defense can be more physical. Okogie was clearly in position and Doncic hit him in the chest…if the offensive player can move forward into a defensive player, why can’t a defensive player do the same?
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I think any defensive player should be able to punch Doncic in the solar plexus.Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:21 pmI think Okogie definitely sold it and I’m actually ok with it not being a foul, but the return, like FF said, needs to be that the defense can be more physical. Okogie was clearly in position and Doncic hit him in the chest…if the offensive player can move forward into a defensive player, why can’t a defensive player do the same?
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Offensive players shouldn't be able to dislodge defenders. Period. It's in the damn rules.
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Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Why I discount some of Shaq's "greatness" as refs let him get away for years with blasting his 360+ lbs against defenders in the post.The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:47 pmOffensive players shouldn't be able to dislodge defenders. Period. It's in the damn rules.
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It's early in the process, so I understand why Okogie kept taking the corner 3's despite how frustrating it was to watch him miss 9 times.
However, those wing guys need to get into the habit of mixing in a dribble drive even if they're wide open. The defense will be in a recover scramble and Ayton can feast on dump off passes. Just indiscriminately chucking it up every time is letting the defense off of the hook.
However, those wing guys need to get into the habit of mixing in a dribble drive even if they're wide open. The defense will be in a recover scramble and Ayton can feast on dump off passes. Just indiscriminately chucking it up every time is letting the defense off of the hook.
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I'm a broken record on this every season (well last couple since we became relevant)
I admire you guys who watch the National commentary
I really don't know how y'all do it lol. It's so embarrassing how biased and ridiculous the takes are
That's why I didn't even bother really going on my timeline y'day
Not surprised to see/read the Suns performance being belittled or people talking more bout Book/Luka 5secs than the actual game
It's the same routine over n over
Unbelievable
I admire you guys who watch the National commentary
I really don't know how y'all do it lol. It's so embarrassing how biased and ridiculous the takes are
That's why I didn't even bother really going on my timeline y'day
Not surprised to see/read the Suns performance being belittled or people talking more bout Book/Luka 5secs than the actual game
It's the same routine over n over
Unbelievable
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Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
One of the funniest things about the whole physicality inconsistency was there was one possession where Book went Ok, this is how y'all calling the game
It was one of those moments where I could see the offensive call coming for Book but the refs let him do the same thing
Wish I had the play to post, but it was legit bully ball against Bullock. Got him square in the chest a couple times and backed him right down into the paint
Bullock was losing his mind and I think maybe got a T as well
That was too funny considering what Luka was doing smh
It was one of those moments where I could see the offensive call coming for Book but the refs let him do the same thing
Wish I had the play to post, but it was legit bully ball against Bullock. Got him square in the chest a couple times and backed him right down into the paint
Bullock was losing his mind and I think maybe got a T as well
That was too funny considering what Luka was doing smh
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Taint for me to say.
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Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Gentlemen, the last few posts, are considered indirect taunting, and therefore, on the next Suns-Mavs game, Dallas will be rewarded with a free throw for each, and possesion of the ball instead of a jump ball.