Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:28 am
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"Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
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Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:52 am
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:57 am
Luka was pushing off and extending his arm all game. He was doing to Okogie, who's no lightweight either. Just a joke of a game from the refs giving him all those calls.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:26 am
His most impactful game as a Sun.Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:26 amHe was huge. Suns were searching all game for someone who could play credible D and hit open 3s and he delivered in a big way.Wally_West wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:47 pmI’m not saying we won because of Ish but we don’t win without him. Pretty good for someone who supposedly isn’t an nba player, and didn’t deserve a roster spot…according to some.
Monty is going to need to figure out a rotation he’s comfortable with. Playing 11-12 guys each night is not a good thing. They need to develop a chemistry and rhythm going into the playoffs.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:03 am
I think they’re still trying things out. But yesterday was Monty Coaching to win 1 game. Okogie was bricking every open look he got, not to mention the ones he passed up on. He just didn’t have it. Had he just made 3 out of 8. It would have been a different game. It happens, sometimes it’s not your day. Going to Ish was a good call. This is what depth is for.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:09 am
On the road in big situations nonetheless.Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:26 amHe was huge. Suns were searching all game for someone who could play credible D and hit open 3s and he delivered in a big way.Wally_West wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:47 pmI’m not saying we won because of Ish but we don’t win without him. Pretty good for someone who supposedly isn’t an nba player, and didn’t deserve a roster spot…according to some.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:35 am
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:40 am
i don't know that we'll have consistency with that 5th starter - Okogie, Craig, Ish, Ross...it might be a by-committee type of thing depending on who's playing well, matchups, schemes, etc. Okogie's shot and overall offense has improved, but he still seems like a feast or famine type. Craig's the same way. Ish was really awesome yesterday the way he stepped up but not sure he's a night in-night out guy.
Props to Monty too for looking for that guy al game until he found him. Once Okogie got to 0-5, 0-6, 0-7 it probably became mental. And the Mavs schemed to get him those corner 3s same way they schemed to make Jae the open man last year.
Props to Monty too for looking for that guy al game until he found him. Once Okogie got to 0-5, 0-6, 0-7 it probably became mental. And the Mavs schemed to get him those corner 3s same way they schemed to make Jae the open man last year.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:29 am
Our team after the trade was always going to be 4 guys plus whoever was playing well. Those last 3-4 playoff rotation spots are wide open. Now is the time to find out who it’ll be, so I’m all for trying out everyone
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:43 am
I'm kind of surprised he didn't try Bazely last night, perhaps at the expense of Ross who clearly didn't have it. I feel like his length and shot blocking may have caused Luka more problems.ShelC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:40 ami don't know that we'll have consistency with that 5th starter - Okogie, Craig, Ish, Ross...it might be a by-committee type of thing depending on who's playing well, matchups, schemes, etc. Okogie's shot and overall offense has improved, but he still seems like a feast or famine type. Craig's the same way. Ish was really awesome yesterday the way he stepped up but not sure he's a night in-night out guy.
Props to Monty too for looking for that guy al game until he found him. Once Okogie got to 0-5, 0-6, 0-7 it probably became mental. And the Mavs schemed to get him those corner 3s same way they schemed to make Jae the open man last year.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:47 am
Ross was repeatedly beat when he was on defense and abused. He was a zero on offense. I haven't seen anything from him that makes me confident when he's on the floor.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:47 am
I think I like Okogie as the 5th starter, even with the poor shooting performance last night. You know you're always going to get the excellent defense and rebounding, and if the offense is clicking, then just chalk up the W at that point. But if it isn't, we have some other options to cycle through. But I think consistently starting with Okogie isn't a bad way to go.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:51 am
Agreed. I think he is certainly the one who is most deserving of the spot given his play over the past few weeks.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:47 amI think I like Okogie as the 5th starter, even with the poor shooting performance last night. You know you're always going to get the excellent defense and rebounding, and if the offense is clicking, then just chalk up the W at that point. But if it isn't, we have some other options to cycle through. But I think consistently starting with Okogie isn't a bad way to go.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:14 am
I think Okogie sticks as the starter, his defense and athleticism are a big plus for us. But if he's struggling on offense and the team is taking advantage of it then Monty needs to look to others. He did as good a job on Luka as anyone despite all the pushoffs. Also thought he did well on Kyrie, with a highlight steal; you don't see defenders taking the ball from Kyrie like that as he's one of the best ballhandlers in the league.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:45 am
Ya I’m Team start Okogie as well. But I think we’ll see times in the playoffs like last night where we pull him from the rotation for someone who’s playing well.wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:47 amI think I like Okogie as the 5th starter, even with the poor shooting performance last night. You know you're always going to get the excellent defense and rebounding, and if the offense is clicking, then just chalk up the W at that point. But if it isn't, we have some other options to cycle through. But I think consistently starting with Okogie isn't a bad way to go.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:48 am
I agree but I feel like that needs to be done over the stretch of the season not the course of a game.
So give Ross 20 mpg for a few games, and if he’s not cutting it then give TJ 20 mpg. Same thing with Ish, etc until you find a group of guys that you feel give you the best chance.
It’s hard to judge a collective group when they’re all getting 10-15 minutes with constant subs with different lineups
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:52 am
That’s true. I think Monty really wanted to win this one and that’s why we saw it…but he has been playing quite a bit of guys in most games.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:48 amI agree but I feel like that needs to be done over the stretch of the season not the course of a game.
So give Ross 20 mpg for a few games, and if he’s not cutting it then give TJ 20 mpg. Same thing with Ish, etc until you find a group of guys that you feel give you the best chance.
It’s hard to judge a collective group when they’re all getting 10-15 minutes with constant subs with different lineups
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:43 am
Is he really a national media guy? He's stationed in Dallas and covers Dallas almost exclusively. His takes on the rest of the league are usually from that homeristic perspective, imo.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:58 am
He works for espn, but ya he’s just a Dallas guy. He’s well connected to the national guys like Lowe and Windy though.
Re: "Just another game" *Early Start* Game Day: Suns (35-29) @ Mavericks (33-31), Sun 3/5/23
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:25 pm
You're right, I see him on there all the time. He's well respected, but he bloviates about the Suns, when he doesn't actually know anything about them and is just using his Mavs glasses to look at them and comment.