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Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:34 pm
by Ring_Wanted

https://twitter.com/jonbloom/status/490225591040241664


Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:49 pm
by Phoenix219
Ring_Wanted wrote:

https://twitter.com/jonbloom/status/490225591040241664

Sure, after signing him to that monster of a contract?

Can't we just take back Nash to retire here and call it a day? :D

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:32 am
by iLLmatic
Ring_Wanted wrote:

https://twitter.com/jonbloom/status/490225591040241664

How legit is this guys sources?

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:36 am
by SwingMan
Phoenix219 wrote:
SwingMan wrote: For the record, I hope you stick around, 219 - especially when we snag The Matrix at vet minimum for 3/4 insurance later on this off-season. ;)
man, don't even put ideas in my head.... .i put that to rest years ago.

Damn you Swing :D
Serious - I can totally see the Suns making that move. Makes more sense than retaining Randolph, for sure.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:42 am
by Phoenix219
I bet other teams would be willing to offer more.... I'd honestly be surprised; We haven't been into signing veterans since Jermaine O'Neal. It really could be a great fit if everyone was on the same page, though. Is it about money, playing time, or contending?

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:08 am
by Phoenix219
So, Sign and Trade to the Lakers? Think there is any truth to that one? Or play hardball and try to keep Bledsoe at reasonable rate?

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:26 am
by iLLmatic
Phoenix219 wrote:So, Sign and Trade to the Lakers? Think there is any truth to that one? Or play hardball and try to keep Bledsoe at reasonable rate?

carey, whats your take on this one? you know no one wants you gone.
I hope there's truth to it 219 tbh. Us and his agent are so far apart we need to figure how to get something for him.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:32 am
by Phoenix219
I wonder who leaked Bledsoe's supposed demands? I definitely don't want to take the chance of losing Dragic over this, so if we can get a good bunch of assets without having to commit to that kind of extended money, I'll be extremely happy.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:32 am
by SDC
iLLmatic wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:

https://twitter.com/jonbloom/status/490225591040241664

How legit is this guys sources?
if the lakers wanted bledsoe, he's there to be had. and it might not even take a max contract to do it.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:38 am
by Phoenix219
Do we want Jordan Hill at 2 years, $18M? I'd honestly prefer to get Nash as an expiring contract, let him retire with a Heroes welcome playing spot minutes off the bench, leaving us cap space to work with next year.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:40 am
by SDC
Phoenix219 wrote:Do we want Jordan Hill at 2 years, $18M? I'd honestly prefer to get Nash as an expiring contract, let him retire with a Heroes welcome playing spot minutes off the bench, leaving us cap space to work with next year.
can jordan hill defend centers? if the suns get nash, we'll have dragic, IT, nash, ennis. #smallballforever

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:43 am
by BigLewy
Phoenix219 wrote:Do we want Jordan Hill at 2 years, $18M? I'd honestly prefer to get Nash as an expiring contract, let him retire with a Heroes welcome playing spot minutes off the bench, leaving us cap space to work with next year.
I thought I read somewhere that most, if not all, of Hill's salary next year is unguaranteed,sort of like how we structured the Tolliver deal. So it might not be as bad as initially feared. If it's actually fully guaranteed, then forget it.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:55 am
by Phoenix219
SDC wrote:
Phoenix219 wrote:Do we want Jordan Hill at 2 years, $18M? I'd honestly prefer to get Nash as an expiring contract, let him retire with a Heroes welcome playing spot minutes off the bench, leaving us cap space to work with next year.
can jordan hill defend centers? if the suns get nash, we'll have dragic, IT, nash, ennis. #smallballforever
Shades of KJ/Kidd/Nash... I would love it. All would be right with the world. Can I have two wishes? Please Mr. McD?!

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:55 am
by iLLmatic
Phoenix219 wrote:I wonder who leaked Bledsoe's supposed demands? I definitely don't want to take the chance of losing Dragic over this, so if we can get a good bunch of assets without having to commit to that kind of extended money, I'll be extremely happy.
Yep, same here.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:57 am
by SDC
Phoenix219 wrote:
SDC wrote:
Phoenix219 wrote:Do we want Jordan Hill at 2 years, $18M? I'd honestly prefer to get Nash as an expiring contract, let him retire with a Heroes welcome playing spot minutes off the bench, leaving us cap space to work with next year.
can jordan hill defend centers? if the suns get nash, we'll have dragic, IT, nash, ennis. #smallballforever
Shades of KJ/Kidd/Nash... I would love it. All would be right with the world. Can I have two wishes? Please Mr. McD?!
iirc, kj was asked to come back (from retirement) after kidd got injured, right?

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:58 am
by iLLmatic
For that playoff run against the Spurs I think.

SUNS 2014: Free Agency 2 (new)

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:48 am
by DrSublime
SDC wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:

https://twitter.com/jonbloom/status/490225591040241664

How legit is this guys sources?
if the lakers wanted bledsoe, he's there to be had. and it might not even take a max contract to do it.
I'd do that trade in the blink of an eye if I were Phoenix, Randle is going to be a really good PF

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency 2 (new)

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:36 am
by Phoenix219
Yeah, great asset building regardless of what cap filler we get for sending out a resigned Bledsoe.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency 2 (new)

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:14 am
by Mori Chu
Nostalgia and great memories aside, when it comes to 2014 Steve Nash, the Lakers and theirf ans REALLY want to be rid of him and his contract. We shouldn't trade with them and take Nash unless they are giving us some really good assets to go with him.

The best thing about trading Bledsoe to the Lakers would be that he would probably help boost them up enough that their pick would not be in the top 1-5 picks. That would mean that it conveys to us. As currently constructed they may well be a bottom-5 team.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency 2 (new)

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:36 am
by Phoenix219
Well I just figure an expiring contract would be better then locked into Jordan Hill for two years, and we're still squeezing basically 2 first round picks out of them for Bledsoe. I think it would mean a lot to the average fanbase and would be worth it to allow Nash to retire here in Phoenix. Randle and another first, plus all the cap space we'd get next year, combined with the personal nostalgia, make it a no brainer for me.

Sign Matrix to a small contract to back up the 3/4 spot, and it would be a nice, classy connection to all of the Suns history, Hornacek era, Nash era, and now. Not to mention it would be the feel good story of the year, after Lebron of course.

Plus, it would be hilarious that we got picks for sending him, and then would be getting more picks for taking him back. It would be troll material vs Lakers fans for ages.