Game Day (In-Season Tournament): Trail Blazers (3-10) @ Suns (7-6), Tues 11/21/23

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Yeah, I've been so confused. What Robert Williams are we talking about?
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The PHNX douche crew weigh in on last night's game.


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Superbone wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:24 am
Yeah, I've been so confused. What Robert Williams are we talking about?
This one

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That's a beauty.
Jones and Vogel gotta go.

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That's no Ricky Rubio!!

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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:24 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:16 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:12 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:09 pm
Did you see how badly DA wanted the ball posting up Book at the end there, and they wouldn't give it to him? So typical. :lol:
Maybe he shouldn't have tried to post up 15-feet away from the ball handler with off-ball defenders waiting to knock away a pass. That was very typical of Ayton.
Umm, the paint is typically the best place to post up.
He was trying to post up while moving away from the passer. Low IQ.
Video: https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=& ... %20(P4.T9) What are you talking about? Lol. Eventually he has to move out of the paint when they don't give it to him within 2 seconds.

There was nothing wrong with either of his two positionings. Either ballhandler could easily have passed it to him. They didn't even have to bounce it to him, could also lob it up high where only he can get it. Ignoring him didn't work out well for them, did it?
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That clip starts after the PnR action. Ayton had position at the free throw line and continued to back into Booker that made the entry pass both more difficult and easier for a defender to provide help on the pass. Malcolm Brogdon is a smart PG, he knows when to pass the ball. Ayton had tunnel vision like he often does in these situations.

Maybe you're just not willing to see it.
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Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:21 am
The Inside the NBA guys have regressed. They used to actually talk about the game and the players more. Now they barely talk about the game at all and instead just goof around and make fun of DA for wearing pearls. Not much analysis to be found in that 5-minute clip.
It's been like that for awhile...

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JeremyG wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:26 am
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:24 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:16 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:12 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:09 pm
Did you see how badly DA wanted the ball posting up Book at the end there, and they wouldn't give it to him? So typical. :lol:
Maybe he shouldn't have tried to post up 15-feet away from the ball handler with off-ball defenders waiting to knock away a pass. That was very typical of Ayton.
Umm, the paint is typically the best place to post up.
He was trying to post up while moving away from the passer. Low IQ.
Video: https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=& ... %20(P4.T9) What are you talking about? Lol. Eventually he has to move out of the paint when they don't give it to him within 2 seconds.

There was nothing wrong with either of his two positionings. Either ballhandler could easily have passed it to him. They didn't even have to bounce it to him, could also lob it up high where only he can get it. Ignoring him didn't work out well for them, did it?
You realize Book is flanking his left side and KD is right there on his right. If he lobs it, KD has enough time to get there.

You're blinded bro.

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Wally_West wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:50 am
Superbone wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:24 am
Yeah, I've been so confused. What Robert Williams are we talking about?
This one

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Kryptonic wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:43 pm
Thanks Wally for the chuckle! 🤣🤣😂
You got a chuckle? I got acid reflux.
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Superbone wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:57 pm
Kryptonic wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:43 pm
Thanks Wally for the chuckle! 🤣🤣😂
You got a chuckle? I got acid reflux.
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:16 pm
That clip starts after the PnR action. Ayton had position at the free throw line and continued to back into Booker that made the entry pass both more difficult and easier for a defender to provide help on the pass. Malcolm Brogdon is a smart PG, he knows when to pass the ball. Ayton had tunnel vision like he often does in these situations.

Maybe you're just not willing to see it.
That's exactly what they should want him to do--back down the defender deeper into the paint to get better position. You all criticized him for not taking advantage when he had a guard on him when he was with us, now you criticize him for doing exactly what he was supposed to do.
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specialsauce wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:07 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:26 am
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:24 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:16 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:12 pm


Maybe he shouldn't have tried to post up 15-feet away from the ball handler with off-ball defenders waiting to knock away a pass. That was very typical of Ayton.
Umm, the paint is typically the best place to post up.
He was trying to post up while moving away from the passer. Low IQ.
Video: https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=& ... %20(P4.T9) What are you talking about? Lol. Eventually he has to move out of the paint when they don't give it to him within 2 seconds.

There was nothing wrong with either of his two positionings. Either ballhandler could easily have passed it to him. They didn't even have to bounce it to him, could also lob it up high where only he can get it. Ignoring him didn't work out well for them, did it?
You realize Book is flanking his left side and KD is right there on his right. If he lobs it, KD has enough time to get there.

You're blinded bro.
Only in the middle of the sequence. Then KD started running back to guard the corner three. Trying to dribble through our double team was obviously not a better decision.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.

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JeremyG wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:53 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:16 pm
That clip starts after the PnR action. Ayton had position at the free throw line and continued to back into Booker that made the entry pass both more difficult and easier for a defender to provide help on the pass. Malcolm Brogdon is a smart PG, he knows when to pass the ball. Ayton had tunnel vision like he often does in these situations.

Maybe you're just not willing to see it.
That's exactly what they should want him to do--back down the defender deeper into the paint to get better position. You all criticized him for not taking advantage when he had a guard on him when he was with us, now you criticize him for doing exactly what he was supposed to do.
He was actively moving away from Brogdon and putting himself in a more difficult position to receive the pass. There's no advantage to be had if his teammates can't reliably get him the ball. That's all I have to say about this hopelessly dumb debate.
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