Around the League: Week 6 (11/27 - 12/3)

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The rules are designed to deter collisions by penalizing the player most responsible.

If an offensive player plows into a set defender, that’s his fault. We try to deter it by calling it a charging foul.

If a defender slides under an airborne offensive player, that’s his fault. We try to deter it by calling it a blocking foul.

When these collisions happen anyway, it’s because both players think they can win the race to the spot. The one who’s wrong gets the foul. I don’t see a better way to handle it.

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Cap wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:47 pm
The rules are designed to deter collisions by penalizing the player most responsible.

If an offensive player plows into a set defender, that’s his fault. We try to deter it by calling it a charging foul.

If a defender slides under an airborne offensive player, that’s his fault. We try to deter it by calling it a blocking foul.

When these collisions happen anyway, it’s because both players think they can win the race to the spot. The one who’s wrong gets the foul. I don’t see a better way to handle it.
Slap fight.

Dance battle

Cook off.

Thumb wrestle.

Cornhole.

There's lots of ways to settle it like gentleman.

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Cap wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:47 pm
The rules are designed to deter collisions by penalizing the player most responsible.

If an offensive player plows into a set defender, that’s his fault. We try to deter it by calling it a charging foul.

If a defender slides under an airborne offensive player, that’s his fault. We try to deter it by calling it a blocking foul.

When these collisions happen anyway, it’s because both players think they can win the race to the spot. The one who’s wrong gets the foul. I don’t see a better way to handle it.
Incentivize plays on the ball and deincentivize non plays on the ball…simple

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Split T wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:06 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 2:51 pm
The whole foul/charge play is one of the most dangerous plays in basketball. Maybe it's different elsewhere, but we never called or allowed charges to be called during pickup games. If you tried to take one, it was a foul on you, no matter how clean it was. And then, you would get ridiculed and mocked for attempting to do it the rest of the day. I doubt that it's much different for NBA players in off-season pickup games, where they are calling their own fouls.
People who take charges in pickup are terrible humans
That's my* deciding factor when determining if they are good or evil too, haha.

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What about double teams?

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Also dumb in pickup…by all means help off your man…. But hard doubles are stupid

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rhylek wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:35 am
What about double teams?
Depends on the situation. Are you playing to win? Is it win or lose the court? Are you doing the other team a favor by forcing it out of a BH's hands?
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Good to see tsunami papi is back practicing.

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I've never seen an offensive foul in pickup ball. Players don't go barrelling into each other either. It's so bad in the NBA because the offensive player is forcing contact to get the foul called. These charge calls are the offense players fault. Don't penalize good defense.

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Offensive players don’t force contact against help defenders…they do that to the primary defender. I don’t think we are talking about the same thing

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I think we are long overdue for a .net pickup game! :D
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I might come back to AZ for that :)

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Even I would want to come to AZ for that!😆😆😆

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I have no idea WTF Monty is doing anymore. Is he tanking or trying to get fired?

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This is a crazy stat.


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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:16 pm
I have no idea WTF Monty is doing anymore. Is he tanking or trying to get fired?

Maybe he wants to see what he could do with a #1 pick... Can a guy dream a little?

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Kryptonic wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:23 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:16 pm
I have no idea WTF Monty is doing anymore. Is he tanking or trying to get fired?
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Maybe he wants to see what he could do with a #1 pick... Can a guy dream a little?
You mean a different #1 pick?
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AGriff gonna get fired after this season.

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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:16 pm
I have no idea WTF Monty is doing anymore. Is he tanking or trying to get fired?

What’s the issue? With the exception of Livers those guys have been starting all year

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You charge lovers will love this one


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