Last Week's Games
Mon, Jan 8th at LA Clippers 111-138 Loss.
Thurs, Jan 11th at LA Lakers 127 - 109 Win!
Sun, Jan 14th at Portland 127 - 116 Win!
This Week's Games
Tue, Jan 16th vs Kings 7:00 MST SUNS LIVE, ARIZONA'S FAMILY 3TV / ARIZONA'S FAMILY SPORTS
Fri, Jan 19th @ Pelicans 6:00 MST SUNS LIVE, ARIZONA'S FAMILY 3TV / ARIZONA'S FAMILY SPORTS
Sun, Jan 21st vs Pacers 6:00 MST SUNS LIVE, ARIZONA'S FAMILY 3TV / ARIZONA'S FAMILY SPORTS
The Suns continue to be the worst team in the fourth quarter, and it’s not even close.
This pains me. If we could just fix this, wouldn't we be one of the best teams in the league? I know it isn't as simple as that, but still, ugh.
Re: Suns News: Week 13 (1/14/24 - 1/21/24)
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:41 am
by Split T
I think I heard if games stopped after the 3rd Q, we would have 8 more wins…so 29-10…that would be 1st in the West
Re: Suns News: Week 13 (1/14/24 - 1/21/24)
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:02 am
by Shabazz
The 3 games this week are both really important in the standings and a good measuring stick for where we are as a team.
Re: Suns News: Week 13 (1/14/24 - 1/21/24)
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:25 am
by ShelC
I just don't understand the 4th qtr issues. The starters have one of the highest net ratings in the league, they look great in the 1st qtr when they're out there and then later on look like they've never played together. We know defenses tighten up and adjustments are made throughout the game but it shouldn't be so bad that Book, Beal, KD and Nurk can't figure it out on the fly and do what they need to do. Maybe it's still just a comfort thing but the more this goes on the more it's going to be a mental thing with them.
Re: Suns News: Week 13 (1/14/24 - 1/21/24)
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:29 am
by Mori Chu
That's why I still hold some hope that they'll figure it out. There's no real reason talent-wise why it should be happening. That means it is probably fixable.
That's why I still hold some hope that they'll figure it out. There's no real reason talent-wise why it should be happening. That means it is probably fixable.
Sounds like what some used to say about a certain former center.
Re: Suns News: Week 13 (1/14/24 - 1/21/24)
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:39 pm
by bajanguy008
So much of this stuff if not basically all I agree with
I've made my thoughts clear about Beal...
Book and KD need no justification and as I said in other thread, half the issues is when they get caught up playing too slow with zero to little player movement
As others have said, breaking up the Starting 5 or as the guys here said, removing Grayson I don't think is what needs correcting
I just don't understand the 4th qtr issues. The starters have one of the highest net ratings in the league, they look great in the 1st qtr when they're out there and then later on look like they've never played together. We know defenses tighten up and adjustments are made throughout the game but it shouldn't be so bad that Book, Beal, KD and Nurk can't figure it out on the fly and do what they need to do. Maybe it's still just a comfort thing but the more this goes on the more it's going to be a mental thing with them.
2 adjustments I’d consider:
Subbing Book out earlier in the 3rd so he can start the 4th. The KD/Beal combo is still finding its rhythm.
Little over KBD. I don’t understand why this hasn’t happened yet, unless Little is hurt.
That's why I still hold some hope that they'll figure it out. There's no real reason talent-wise why it should be happening. That means it is probably fixable.
Let's hope it starts going in the other direction. Would be nice to finish the season and into the playoffs in an upwards swing.
Re: Suns News: Week 13 (1/14/24 - 1/21/24)
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:14 pm
by Superbone
After the Blazers game, Book says, "Yeah, I'm feeling better."
That explains some things. He wasn't old Book for a stretch a little ways back.
Re: Suns News: Week 13 (1/14/24 - 1/21/24)
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:44 pm
by Furlanfufi
I still don't think we got any better. The Lakers game had a lot of good individual performances, but we ran the clogged toilet offense vs Portland. It's baffling that our team don't have one back door cut, all the screens are to free the ball handler, the players just stand around the 3 point line waiting for the play to develop.
I just don't understand the 4th qtr issues. The starters have one of the highest net ratings in the league, they look great in the 1st qtr when they're out there and then later on look like they've never played together. We know defenses tighten up and adjustments are made throughout the game but it shouldn't be so bad that Book, Beal, KD and Nurk can't figure it out on the fly and do what they need to do. Maybe it's still just a comfort thing but the more this goes on the more it's going to be a mental thing with them.
2 adjustments I’d consider:
Subbing Book out earlier in the 3rd so he can start the 4th. The KD/Beal combo is still finding its rhythm.
Little over KBD. I don’t understand why this hasn’t happened yet, unless Little is hurt.
Agree about Little. I don’t get it
Re: Suns News: Week 13 (1/14/24 - 1/21/24)
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:00 pm
by Split T
I didn’t watch the Portland game, but KBD has been a better defensive player imo. His length is impactful at times and Little has been a bit of a turnstile…perimeter guys go right buy him. Little is way better offensively as he’s a pretty good finisher and isn’t a complete zero from 3…I’d rather KBD play in lineups with the starters, but KBD in bench lineups is kinda rough…KBD/Eubanks/Okogie should never be on the court together
That's why I still hold some hope that they'll figure it out. There's no real reason talent-wise why it should be happening. That means it is probably fixable.
Sounds like what some used to say about a certain former center.
I didn’t watch the Portland game, but KBD has been a better defensive player imo. His length is impactful at times and Little has been a bit of a turnstile…perimeter guys go right buy him. Little is way better offensively as he’s a pretty good finisher and isn’t a complete zero from 3…I’d rather KBD play in lineups with the starters, but KBD in bench lineups is kinda rough…KBD/Eubanks/Okogie should never be on the court together
I just don't understand the 4th qtr issues. The starters have one of the highest net ratings in the league, they look great in the 1st qtr when they're out there and then later on look like they've never played together. We know defenses tighten up and adjustments are made throughout the game but it shouldn't be so bad that Book, Beal, KD and Nurk can't figure it out on the fly and do what they need to do. Maybe it's still just a comfort thing but the more this goes on the more it's going to be a mental thing with them.
2 adjustments I’d consider:
Subbing Book out earlier in the 3rd so he can start the 4th. The KD/Beal combo is still finding its rhythm.
Little over KBD. I don’t understand why this hasn’t happened yet, unless Little is hurt.
Agree about Little. I don’t get it
You guys doth protest a Little too much.
Re: Suns News: Week 13 (1/14/24 - 1/21/24)
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:36 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
He's had some good 1v1 defensive possessions, but I think KBD has otherwise been poor defensively.