2024 Suns General Offseason News

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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
He might have to fire himself from meddling first.
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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.
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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 5:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.
Hey SB, I’ve seen borg a few times lol what does that stand for?

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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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iLLmatic wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 7:14 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 5:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm


I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.
Hey SB, I’ve seen borg a few times lol what does that stand for?
The college kids call BORG's... Big Ol Rage Gallon's but don't think SB is that hip :P j/k

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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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Gallons? Like milk or a hat? College kids are idiots. Stupid clouds.

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Can’t wait for the new staff around Vogel.

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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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iLLmatic wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 7:14 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 5:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm


I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.
Hey SB, I’ve seen borg a few times lol what does that stand for?
It’s a comment common on AZSF that means two posters are thinking the same thing, like they don’t have individual minds, like the Borg from Star Trek.

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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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Mori Chu wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 1:46 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 1:27 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 1:11 pm
Hey remember how Flex said we'd get news on Vogel "Monday or Tuesday"? LMAO. Full of shit.
No, he said today or tomorrow. Today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow. We'll check back in tomorrow which will then be today.
When will THEN be NOW?!
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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
If that's the case then Jones is redundant so the point still stands. If he isn't constructing the roster then what is the point of his role?

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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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Cap wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 8:37 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 7:14 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 5:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm


I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.
Hey SB, I’ve seen borg a few times lol what does that stand for?
It’s a comment common on AZSF that means two posters are thinking the same thing, like they don’t have individual minds, like the Borg from Star Trek.
That’s where I’m seeing it from. Thanks for clarifying.

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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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TOO wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 7:58 pm
Gallons? Like milk or a hat? College kids are idiots. Stupid clouds.
Yes, they can be lol. My son doesn’t do it but showed me videos. They take water gallons, empty half the water then fill the other half with a 5th of alcohol and drink dropper or liquid IV for flavor and to make sure they’re hydrating at the same time.

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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:31 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:16 pm
They have to fire him. Why even keep Vogel on if you're going to force him to completely replace his coaching staff, which would completely undermine and emasculate him?
That's a Sarver move.
Isn't it what he did to Hornacek? Worked so well !!!

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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

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SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 11:16 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
If that's the case then Jones is redundant so the point still stands. If he isn't constructing the roster then what is the point of his role?
That seems to happen quite a lot with new owners, like Cuban at the time, or our beloved Sarver.
There was reports that Ishbia took some advice from Colangelo, but maybe he's too old, or that was just a smokescreen.
I just hope he learns to defer to the people in charge quicker than Cuban, so we can have our first title while I'm still alive!

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rhylek wrote:
Thu May 09, 2024 8:25 am
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 11:16 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm


I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
If that's the case then Jones is redundant so the point still stands. If he isn't constructing the roster then what is the point of his role?
That seems to happen quite a lot with new owners, like Cuban at the time, or our beloved Sarver.
There was reports that Ishbia took some advice from Colangelo, but maybe he's too old, or that was just a smokescreen.
I just hope he learns to defer to the people in charge quicker than Cuban, so we can have our first title while I'm still alive!
You and me both and I'm pretty sure I have less time than you do.
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"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
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There isn't a trade that doesn't make sense for the Suns to accommodate that move. Jacquez is a must, but after that there isn't much that would be available that could help the Suns.

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I don't see why KD or any other player is required to comment on every random rumor that some random podcaster says about them. And KD isn't in charge of whether or not he'd go to Miami or any other team; the Suns would have to be the ones to trade him. I'd just ignore it if I were him.

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Sure, it would be ok if they kept everyone that helped and they got rid of everyone that didn't help them. I'm not worrying about a KD trade to Miami, as it seems very unlikely to happen. With that being said, I think that Spoelstra could figure out how to use KD correctly.
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If Miami wants to give us a godfather offer for KD, I absolutely take that call. But I'm already on record as wanting to blow this team up.

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