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Vladimir_Taltos wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:32 pm
Kryptonic wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:57 am
Cap wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:49 am
Speaking of minutes, here’s a possible minutes distribution in a close game where we maximize the use of the stars and have no garbage time:

PG Tyus 30, Monte 18
SG Allen 12, Beal 36
SF Book 36, Allen 12
PF KD 36, Bol* 12
C Nurk 30, Mason 18

*Depending on matchups

That looks like a really solid rotation. Then again, I thought the same thing about our signings last year.
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I think you have to have time for Dunn, Ighodaro and for that matter O'Neale.
Depending on matchups. That was just an example game. We’re obviously not going to find meaningful time for twelve players in a typical game.

And in the playoffs, when we tighten to a nine-man rotation, I think eight of them will be (if healthy) Tyus, Monte, Allen, Beal, Book, KD, Nurk and Mason. The ninth will — say it with me — depend on matchups. And who earned the time.

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Here’s hoping our stars won’t need to put up 36 mpg.

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pickle wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:19 pm
Here’s hoping our stars won’t need to put up 36 mpg.
This was an example of “a close game where we maximize the use of the stars and have no garbage time,” not averages.

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Cap wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:23 pm
pickle wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:19 pm
Here’s hoping our stars won’t need to put up 36 mpg.
This was an example of “a close game where we maximize the use of the stars and have no garbage time,” not averages.
Let me say this differently...

a. I think for us to win as it gets further into the season, we have to have made the investment to spin up the rookies. We are going to need something from the rookies this year, ie somebody hopefully overdelivering for us...if we're going to make it post season.
b. I think we got two interesting rookies that could provide that extra gas we need to make a substantive difference. However, that means that they can't be riding the pine all season as we've done in the past. We need to make the other 4 potential players there able to take up minutes..injury, whatever, they need to be ready and need to be able to contribute. We can't just hope for the best.
c. I'll add to that it will be interesting to watch the flip to a PG driven flow...with Tyus and Monte, no way is the intention to run the mess we did last year...probably for the best. But I think this ends up meaning we want Beal to juice the second unit. I think we have a legit full second unit that is going to suprise some folk, so rotating people more freely is going to give chances to give us more looks and gas some of the players that will need the minutes to contribute when we need them.

I'm really optimistic about how the mix worked out...and I think in the end with those changes the coaching change was probably the right move. If we see some overt moves made to spread minutes and get different combos comfortable, we could really take some folk by surprise. We'll see...just kind of excited to see how it all comes together.

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Leave it to Cap to drop a wildly controversial minutes distribution. :lol:

I think we will see games that look just like that with some tweaks depending on health etc. Here are my nit-picks, anyway.

If Monte is healthy, he and Jones will split the minutes more evenly. Until last season, Monte has always played more minutes than Tyus.
I don't think Bol makes the lineup regularly.
Allen and O'Neal will both get playing time right up until one of them is traded. Like with our point guards, Royce has actually had a larger role on more successful teams until last year.

This roster just has so many redundant parts. I mean, dang, dude.
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