Around the League: October

[carey]

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/525115203017797632

[SDC]

two changes are needed:

1) bottom 17 teams (including some playoff teams) should have equal shot at the top 4 lottery picks.

2) the top 2 seeds of the east and west can win their first round playoff series in three games. the 7th-8th seed needs to win 4 times to beat the #1 and #2. Format: HH-AA-HH (6 game series 1st vs 8th and 2nd vs 7th).

10 takeaways from nba's rejection of lottery reform
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nba-r ... ry-reform/

i still think my idea of lottery/playoff reform is the best.

[Ring_Wanted]

The flip side is that the mega-markets would absolutely clean up if their revenue-sharing obligations vanished. The Lakers committed nearly $50 million to revenue sharing last season, per league documents. The Knicks forked over about $27 million. The Bulls, always tax-conscious, kicked in $17 million.

Those teams would be swimming in cash if they were able to keep that money for themselves. That would be doubly so if and when the big-market teams can renegotiate their local television deals — money they don’t have to share with the other 29 teams. Perhaps their spending advantage over their non-glamour brethren could widen. Would the luxury tax even matter at that point?

Of course. But only to less wealthy franchises and owners.

[SDC]

The flip side is that the mega-markets would absolutely clean up if their revenue-sharing obligations vanished. The Lakers committed nearly $50 million to revenue sharing last season, per league documents. The Knicks forked over about $27 million. The Bulls, always tax-conscious, kicked in $17 million.

Those teams would be swimming in cash if they were able to keep that money for themselves. That would be doubly so if and when the big-market teams can renegotiate their local television deals — money they don’t have to share with the other 29 teams. Perhaps their spending advantage over their non-glamour brethren could widen. Would the luxury tax even matter at that point?

Of course. But only to less wealthy franchises and owners.

if you tax the wealthier teams and then give the profits to the less wealthy franchises, maybe that could even things up. #socialism

[Sunsfan4life]

IT is friends with Mayweather? ew.

I hope he doesn't duck guys like Floyd has ducked Pac-man.

[Sunsfan4life]

Jared Sullinger is just destroying pre-season. This is someone I wanted the suns to take a few years ago. The concern was the back, but he seemed like someone who had loads of potential and could contribute right away. It took a little longer, but he seems primed for a big breakout yr. Stole him in my fantasy draft

[Ring_Wanted]

Sullinger was my target too with our pick. Crazy that they took Marshall instead. He would have been a steal at #13, and I was really surprised he fell all the way to #21.

[Sunsfan4life]

Yea people were scared off by his back. If we flagged him medically I could understand, but agreed I wanted him at 13. Full disclosure though, I was fine Marshall pick at the time. I wasn't in love with it but thought he would contribute and do more in the league then he has done.

Sully beasted at Ohio St and really believe if it wasn't for his back he would of been a top 10 pick that yr

[Ring_Wanted]

I had the feeling that Marshall was a waste at #13 when there was a number of players who could have covered needs, and with much higher ceiling than Kendall. Sullinger was my choice, but I would have gone with PJ3, Tyler Zeller, Harkless, Tony Wroten and TJones before picking Marshall.

I didn't follow a lot of college ball back then (not that now I am a NCAA junkie) but I thought his value was inflated because he had a perfect roster to take advantage of his only skill. And there's also the point that there were other PGs available on the market that offseason, specifically Goran Dragic, who I wanted back basically at all costs (I was willing to give him up to 10M per).

[Sunsfan4life]

Understandable. I thought his best skill, court vision and passing, would translate over, but I didn't realize how big of a liability he'd be on the defensive end. His shot is wack too, but ultimately I think his foot speed...or lack there of is his biggest flaw.

Agreed with wanting PJIII and Sullinger. I also really liked Dion waiters who was originally suppose to be around at 13 and was shocked to see him go 4th. He's been a disappointment so far. The rumor is the Suns really wanted Jeremy Lamb He went too the rockets 1 pick ahead of them.

[Bruiser]

I am sorry for not knowing if this has been posted here already but I think it is simply too good to be missed - cannot even explain how much I enjoyed the entire conversation.

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[Mori Chu]

I watched that video last night and liked it a lot. I like the middle guest guy who has no reservations about bashing idiot coaches and players. Love the candor and bluntness.

[da_suns_fan]

I watched that video last night and liked it a lot. I like the middle guest guy who has no reservations about bashing idiot coaches and players. Love the candor and bluntness.

He was very, very good.

Amazing to contrast with that roundtable of idiots on NBA Tv (Barkley, Shaq, Isiah, Webber, Reggie etc) who cant come up with a single non-moronic take between them. You can see how lazy they are with their analysis (would rather just talk about themselves) compared to Haralabos who watches 400 nba games a season and actually has some really good insight.

[Aztec Sunsfan]

The Lakers need a backup PG, we have Ennis likely headed to D-League.

Would you do a deal giving them back their pick plus Tyler Ennis for Julius Randle? Or some tweaking that net us the Houston's pick?

[OE32]

The Lakers need a backup PG, we have Ennis likely headed to D-League.

Would you do a deal giving them back their pick plus Tyler Ennis for Julius Randle? Or some tweaking that net us the Houston's pick?

I think we need to wait until next year's draft to trade Ennis. No use trading for a pick until we know which pick it is, and whom we'll get there, IMO.

[pickle]

julius randle hasn't demonstrated anything to justify two first rounders... yes ennis is redundant at the moment, but let's not decide already that he's not talented and needs to be dumped.

[Aztec Sunsfan]

I like to see an oportunity and take it. If we wait for Randle to show something special, it would cost a lot more to get it. And in the other hand, Ennis has not shown anything to justify even a spot on the roster, yet you want to keep him. I mean, the same argument used in opposite directions.

And it wouldn't be a dumped Ennis, but a traded one.

Of course the value exchanged is hard to match, that's why I asked how would it need to be tweaked to make it a fair deal.

The lone pick form LA in exchange for Randle?
The pick plus Ennis for Randle?
The pick and Ennis vs Randle + Houston's pick?

[SDC]

I like to see an oportunity and take it. If we wait for Randle to show something special, it would cost a lot more to get it. And in the other hand, Ennis has not shown anything to justify even a spot on the roster, yet you want to keep him. I mean, the same argument used in opposite directions.

And it wouldn't be a dumped Ennis, but a traded one.

Of course the value exchanged is hard to match, that's why I asked how would it need to be tweaked to make it a fair deal.

The lone pick form LA in exchange for Randle?
The pick plus Ennis for Randle?
The pick and Ennis vs Randle + Houston's pick?

dude, the lakers are tying to get worse in the short term. why would they trade for ennis?

putting nash in an okafor type situation is part of their long term plans.

[SDC]

trade ennis to a team that WANTS HIM. NY, toronto... but what do we get from them in return?

[Aztec Sunsfan]

trade ennis to a team that WANTS HIM. NY, toronto... but what do we get from them in return?

Not much it seems... And the Lakers are not going to turn around their season trading for Ennis, the real prize is to get back their pick from us. They could even agree to a direct Pick-Randle swap if Davis keeps getting the job done.

I'm entertaining this idea mostly because I hate when an good asset got wasted because we obtusely keep it for too long, most recently the Okafor contract, next in line the Minnesota pick.

Last year, sending Okafor and the Minny pick for a Gasol rental (as you suggested) would have probably ended in a really inexpensive playoff run, specially because by the tradeline was pretty clear that the T-Wolves were keeping their pick at least for the year. Now we are going to see it transformed in two mediocre second rounders because we hang onto it for too long.

Same thing with the Lakers pick. It failed to materialize in last year draft (supossedly with the best available crop of prospects) and now it looks like is going to be a close call all year long wether we got it or it stays at LA. If we skip on trade it now, but eventually stays home for the '15 draft... One top 5 prospect, plus a good-not-necesarily-great Free Agent signing (hey, they can not keep striking out forever) and we are looking at a mediocre pick for the '16 draft.