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I know that using my own common sense it seems entirely feasible during these times. I mean, would you want to have an elective surgery right now?In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:52 pmHow many on here have friends/relatives as nurses or doctors and/or work at hospitals? My wife has a bunch of them, but they are complaining that their hours are being cut terribly, because no one is coming in for elective surgeries right now. The hospitals are essentially empty and are hemorrhaging money. Anyone know anything about this?
I read this yesterday and it is terrifying.Nodack wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:21 amMysterious Heart Damage, Not Just Lung Troubles, Befalling COVID-19 Patients
https://khn.org/news/mysterious-heart-d ... -patients/
In addition to lung damage, many COVID-19 patients are also developing heart problems — and dying of cardiac arrest.
As more data comes in from China and Italy, as well as Washington state and New York, more cardiac experts are coming to believe the COVID-19 virus can infect the heart muscle. An initial study found cardiac damage in as many as 1 in 5 patients, leading to heart failure and death even among those who show no signs of respiratory distress.
Don’t believe everything you hear about hospitals running on thin margins.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:43 amYeah I am in a rural area and covid hasn't hit yet. So my doctor friends are saying the ER is empty and they are telling people to stay home (and in some cases laying them off). Hospitals operate on VERY thin margins, and that is why they keep cutting beds/rooms and trying to get people out of the hospital as quickly as possible. It doesn't bode well for pandemics. The US has one of the lowest bed counts per capita of the big economic countries (despite America spending so much more than other countries on healthcare).
I live in a med school town and know a few health professionals. Some specialists here are meeting patients over the video chat for follow ups to existing conditions. Some general practitioners are trying to do routine health care diagnosis over video as well. Insurance does not want to pay for those kind of sessions, though.In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:52 pmHow many on here have friends/relatives as nurses or doctors and/or work at hospitals? My wife has a bunch of them, but they are complaining that their hours are being cut terribly, because no one is coming in for elective surgeries right now. The hospitals are essentially empty and are hemorrhaging money. Anyone know anything about this?
Is that a challenge?Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:56 amIt probably helps that most people are staying home as well. It's a lot harder to injure oneself from the sofa. The last time I was in a (US) hospital was over 10 years ago after being in a traffic accident.
The "greedy" and "rich" doctors reputation always baffled me. Why villainize upper middle class salaries for work that is both important and difficult?specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:53 pmDon’t believe everything you hear about hospitals running on thin margins.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:43 amYeah I am in a rural area and covid hasn't hit yet. So my doctor friends are saying the ER is empty and they are telling people to stay home (and in some cases laying them off). Hospitals operate on VERY thin margins, and that is why they keep cutting beds/rooms and trying to get people out of the hospital as quickly as possible. It doesn't bode well for pandemics. The US has one of the lowest bed counts per capita of the big economic countries (despite America spending so much more than other countries on healthcare).
Sure, small town hospitals yes.
But the big network hospitals are just as much getting fat off the back of the people as insurance companies are. Nurses and doctors are the pawns for both groups, yet we get the “greed” label because we’re powerless in Washington.
https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/3779681002
Here are just a couple.specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:53 pmDon’t believe everything you hear about hospitals running on thin margins.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:43 amYeah I am in a rural area and covid hasn't hit yet. So my doctor friends are saying the ER is empty and they are telling people to stay home (and in some cases laying them off). Hospitals operate on VERY thin margins, and that is why they keep cutting beds/rooms and trying to get people out of the hospital as quickly as possible. It doesn't bode well for pandemics. The US has one of the lowest bed counts per capita of the big economic countries (despite America spending so much more than other countries on healthcare).
Sure, small town hospitals yes.
But the big network hospitals are just as much getting fat off the back of the people as insurance companies are. Nurses and doctors are the pawns for both groups, yet we get the “greed” label because we’re powerless in Washington.
https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/3779681002
2.1% of 8.5 BILLION DOLLARS. That’s $178.5 MILLION in profits in 2018. The CEO himself got 25 MILLION dollars. I’m not feeling bad for the big guysIndy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:01 pmHere are just a couple.specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:53 pmDon’t believe everything you hear about hospitals running on thin margins.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:43 amYeah I am in a rural area and covid hasn't hit yet. So my doctor friends are saying the ER is empty and they are telling people to stay home (and in some cases laying them off). Hospitals operate on VERY thin margins, and that is why they keep cutting beds/rooms and trying to get people out of the hospital as quickly as possible. It doesn't bode well for pandemics. The US has one of the lowest bed counts per capita of the big economic countries (despite America spending so much more than other countries on healthcare).
Sure, small town hospitals yes.
But the big network hospitals are just as much getting fat off the back of the people as insurance companies are. Nurses and doctors are the pawns for both groups, yet we get the “greed” label because we’re powerless in Washington.
https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/3779681002
Banner for fiscal year 2018 made 2.1% profit on 8.5B in revenue.
Kaiser for 2019 had 84.5B in revenue, 2.7B in profit for 3.2% (although they are a not-for-profit business)
Dignity Health lost money in 2018 (another not-for-profit).
Cleveland Clinic for 2018 had 8.9B in revenue, 266M in op income for 3%.
Sure, there are very wealthy systems like Mayo Clinic, but they are very rare.
Mayo Clinic for 2019 had 13.82B in revenue, 1.1B in op income for 7.6%
As an example, the pharma/drug companies average 15-20% profit margins, or 5-10 times what a hospital does. And most of the big insurance companies (Cigna, blue cross/shield, etc. ) make over a billion in profit each quarter.