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Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:20 am
by Dan H
I need to just go pick it up at the used bookstore, I've checked it out twice from the library and I never can finish it by the time the counter runs out.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:08 am
by carey
Dan H wrote:I need to just go pick it up at the used bookstore, I've checked it out twice from the library and I never can finish it by the time the counter runs out.
They are always running specials on Amazon.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 11:33 pm
by Ghost
carey wrote:Yes to your question, Dan.
But there was a pretty huge thing that happened in the show and not the books last week, in addition to the thing that we already talked about, and not related to the thing Dan asked about.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 11:42 pm
by carey
Ghost wrote:carey wrote:Yes to your question, Dan.
But there was a pretty huge thing that happened in the show and not the books last week, in addition to the thing that we already talked about, and not related to the thing Dan asked about.
ENORMOUS. And honestly, I can't believe they went there. It's long been a book reader theory but to see them spell it out like that... Also that they basically hit on it twice. Once in the talk between Petyr and Sansa and then again with Ser Barristan and Dany.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:16 am
by Ghost
carey wrote:Ghost wrote:carey wrote:Yes to your question, Dan.
But there was a pretty huge thing that happened in the show and not the books last week, in addition to the thing that we already talked about, and not related to the thing Dan asked about.
ENORMOUS. And honestly, I can't believe they went there. It's long been a book reader theory but to see them spell it out like that... Also that they basically hit on it twice. Once in the talk between Petyr and Sansa and then again with Ser Barristan and Dany.
That was actually not what I was thinking about, but yeah, you win. The branch I spoke of actually started in the previous episode, so I guess I was technically wrong.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 8:44 am
by Dan H
I think at this point Jon's parentage is almost a given. There have been so many clues dropped that it would be a colossal disappointment if he weren't a Targaryen.
The one thing I have been running over in my head . . . what would the reactions of some of the other characters be if/when the truth comes out?
Given Stannis' obvious respect for Jon, how does he react when it's revealed that Jon has a far better claim to the throne than he?
Another gut punch that I could see happening if/when Dany and Jon ever meet . . . who's to say that Jon doesn't have the ability to communicate/relate with dragons as he does with his dire wolf? There's already been rampant speculation that Bran will warg into one of the dragons at some point . . . how does Dany react if Jon walks up and Drogon, oh, I don't know, rolls over to let him scratch his belly like a puppy, LOL?
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:39 pm
by Ghost
Dan H wrote:I think at this point Jon's parentage is almost a given. There have been so many clues dropped that it would be a colossal disappointment if he weren't a Targaryen.
The one thing I have been running over in my head . . . what would the reactions of some of the other characters be if/when the truth comes out?
Given Stannis' obvious respect for Jon, how does he react when it's revealed that Jon has a far better claim to the throne than he?
Another gut punch that I could see happening if/when Dany and Jon ever meet . . . who's to say that Jon doesn't have the ability to communicate/relate with dragons as he does with his dire wolf? There's already been rampant speculation that Bran will warg into one of the dragons at some point . . . how does Dany react if Jon walks up and Drogon, oh, I don't know, rolls over to let him scratch his belly like a puppy, LOL?
Book spoiler Dan, read at your own risk.
It's explicitly stated in the books that dragons will only allow one person to ever ride them. So, Jon might be able to give a belly scratch...but Drogon is hers forever.
One of the other two, though...
I think it more likely that if/when Jon and Dany team up, Jon will still respect his oath to the Wall. That makes any direct involvement in the affairs of the kingdoms forbidden, BUT, if the book plot stays true, Ramsay Bolton will be attacking the Wall soon enough. So, that would seem to render that part of the oath moot, which might allow Jon a loophole to provide more direct support. But more likely, he'll be using a dragon to fight off the Others.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 5:16 pm
by Dan H
Yeah, no worries on book spoilers as I have general idea of what's happen. I had forgotten about her flying off at the end of the last book.
Another thing that occured to me . . .
King's blood is important to Melisandre and her magic, that's why she wanted Gendry. Could be another hint as to why she's trying to get in Jon's pants.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 11:56 pm
by Ghost
That is actually a very interesting theory. If she can get knocked up by the rightful ruler...and she's definitely the type to kill her own spawn for her lord of light.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:58 am
by Ghost
At this point, I think it's safe to say that the books and show are different stories. Related, yes, but very different.
By the way, when I read the part in the book where Tyrion got pulled underwater by the Stonemen, I was about ready to hunt down GRRM and murder him personally.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:33 am
by Indy
Shouldn't you be sleeping?
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:48 am
by Dan H
Ha, ha, Cersei!
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:16 pm
by Dan H
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:22 pm
by carey
Only click if you have seen episode 8.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:53 pm
by Wally_West
That was a shit fuck moment!
Dragon Steel= Valyrian Steel theory confirmed.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:55 pm
by Wally_West
carey wrote:Only click if you have seen episode 8.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:06 pm
by Mori Chu
Wow, that episode was amazing.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:00 pm
by Indy
More amazing than the battle act was the scene with Tyrion and Danny.
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:28 am
by Dan H
Okay, so bear with me here.
If the show follows the books, Jon is going to be betrayed and attacked by some of the Night's Watch. Presumably bleeding to death at the end of the finale . . .
Now there's been lots of assumptions that Melisandre will somehow heal him or even restore him to life (a la Thoros of Myr). If/when she does so, will she recognize that he has king's blood?
And when she does, will she try to burn him?
And if she tries to burn him . . . . assuming that Jon, like Dany, is the son of Rhaegar, what happens?
I know he was badly burnt when he was defending Mormont from the wight, but is there something 'different' about Targs when exposed to magical fire?
Re: Game of Thrones
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:04 am
by Wally_West
Dan H wrote:Okay, so bear with me here.
If the show follows the books, Jon is going to be betrayed and attacked by some of the Night's Watch. Presumably bleeding to death at the end of the finale . . .
Now there's been lots of assumptions that Melisandre will somehow heal him or even restore him to life (a la Thoros of Myr). If/when she does so, will she recognize that he has king's blood?
And when she does, will she try to burn him?
And if she tries to burn him . . . . assuming that Jon, like Dany, is the son of Rhaegar, what happens?
I know he was badly burnt when he was defending Mormont from the wight, but is there something 'different' about Targs when exposed to magical fire?
Book Spoilers!
She wouldn't burn the Azor Ahai!
So I think he will be safe from burning. I totally think they will leave it as a big cliff hanger for the season finale whether he is dead or not too, the dicks!
Also does anyone think Ollie is going to be one of the assholes that helps in the stabbings? Me thinks so, haha.
