Re: Cardinals
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:04 pm
DeAndre Hopkins! Omg.
Love it, love it, love it. I didn't think so either. 3rd best player in the draft, imo. Perfect fit for Cards along with Campbell to maybe finally stop TEs from killing them every week.
Why safety? Feels like he'd be more valuable at inside lb next to Campbell, play sideline to sideline and shut down TEs. Although, they do have Jordan Hicks, but I don't think he's anything special. Didn't the draft a safety (Jalen Thompson) in the supplemental draft last yr and was starting next to Baker?
I’m not able to watch enough cardinals games to have a super informed opinion, but trying to fit everyone onto the field seems like a pretty big upgrade from last years defense.In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:38 amIt feels like Hicks being the leading tackler doesn't mean much on a terrible defense and couldn't stop a TE if their life depended on it. Linebackers usually lead the league in tackles. I could be wrong, and Hicks might be great. Campbell was the leading tackler from Atl, and had shown the ability to cover TEs. My guess is that he was an upgrade on the opposite ILB.
You might be right, they might be able to play him all over the field at different positions, but I'm a little worried about him being a jack of all trades and master of none. You would think he could be a better version of Darryl Washington with some cover skills, but some think he could be the next coming of Sean Taylor. Not sure which is more valuable and I don't know much about Thompson, other than they were stoked to get him in the 5th round and thought he could have had a 1st round grade in this draft if he played college last yr. Sounded like he got better at the end of the yr and was young.
I think Kennard is going to play opposite of Jones and rushing the QB. The addition of Jordan Phillips and Kennard along with a healthy Zach Allen, should in theory improve the defensive line tremendously to bolster Peters and Jones. Still probably need to find another DT though.Split T wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:06 amI’m not able to watch enough cardinals games to have a super informed opinion, but trying to fit everyone onto the field seems like a pretty big upgrade from last years defense.In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:38 amIt feels like Hicks being the leading tackler doesn't mean much on a terrible defense and couldn't stop a TE if their life depended on it. Linebackers usually lead the league in tackles. I could be wrong, and Hicks might be great. Campbell was the leading tackler from Atl, and had shown the ability to cover TEs. My guess is that he was an upgrade on the opposite ILB.
You might be right, they might be able to play him all over the field at different positions, but I'm a little worried about him being a jack of all trades and master of none. You would think he could be a better version of Darryl Washington with some cover skills, but some think he could be the next coming of Sean Taylor. Not sure which is more valuable and I don't know much about Thompson, other than they were stoked to get him in the 5th round and thought he could have had a 1st round grade in this draft if he played college last yr. Sounded like he got better at the end of the yr and was young.
What I know, we’ve got 4 starter quality linebackers(Jones, Hicks, Campbell, Kennard) including one who’s All-Pro level. We’ve got 2 Pro-Bowl DB’s(PP and BB) 2 promising rookie DB’s(Thompson and Murphy) Add Simmons to that and if Alford is healthy and ready to go, we have 10 solid to elite LB/DB guys in the rotation. I have some doubts about the defensive line and the corner opposite PP, but we should have a respectable defense this year. Add in what I think will be a top tier offense, and we can do some damage.
Ya Kennard will play opposite Jones, I’m calling them linebackers, but you can call them edge rushers.In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:28 amI think Kennard is going to play opposite of Jones and rushing the QB. The addition of Jordan Phillips and Kennard along with a healthy Zach Allen, should in theory improve the defensive line tremendously to bolster Peters and Jones. Still probably need to find another DT though.Split T wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:06 amI’m not able to watch enough cardinals games to have a super informed opinion, but trying to fit everyone onto the field seems like a pretty big upgrade from last years defense.In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:38 amIt feels like Hicks being the leading tackler doesn't mean much on a terrible defense and couldn't stop a TE if their life depended on it. Linebackers usually lead the league in tackles. I could be wrong, and Hicks might be great. Campbell was the leading tackler from Atl, and had shown the ability to cover TEs. My guess is that he was an upgrade on the opposite ILB.
You might be right, they might be able to play him all over the field at different positions, but I'm a little worried about him being a jack of all trades and master of none. You would think he could be a better version of Darryl Washington with some cover skills, but some think he could be the next coming of Sean Taylor. Not sure which is more valuable and I don't know much about Thompson, other than they were stoked to get him in the 5th round and thought he could have had a 1st round grade in this draft if he played college last yr. Sounded like he got better at the end of the yr and was young.
What I know, we’ve got 4 starter quality linebackers(Jones, Hicks, Campbell, Kennard) including one who’s All-Pro level. We’ve got 2 Pro-Bowl DB’s(PP and BB) 2 promising rookie DB’s(Thompson and Murphy) Add Simmons to that and if Alford is healthy and ready to go, we have 10 solid to elite LB/DB guys in the rotation. I have some doubts about the defensive line and the corner opposite PP, but we should have a respectable defense this year. Add in what I think will be a top tier offense, and we can do some damage.
I was talking to a friend yesterday and if you consider Pat P as an addition after he had a down year with the suspension, Alford and Allen being healthy and Thompson & Murphy coming off the rookie seasons, they could have upgraded 7 positions & depth on the defense with (Pat P, Alford, Allen, Murphy, Phillips, Kennard, Campbell, Thompson, Simmons) with Hicks, Jones, Peters and Baker coming back relatively the same, as expected. Shutdown corners(Peterson, Alford), pass rushers (Jones, Phillips, Kennard), and backline defense w/ ability to cover TEs(Campbell, Simmons, Baker), this should be a very fun defense and year.
Simmons is either Sean Taylor or Bryan Urlacher. Either way, you can't go wrong. I'm really excited for this season. I hope they can pick up more gems the rest of the draft, but I'm not too worried about it after that pick.Split T wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:41 amYa Kennard will play opposite Jones, I’m calling them linebackers, but you can call them edge rushers.In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:28 amI think Kennard is going to play opposite of Jones and rushing the QB. The addition of Jordan Phillips and Kennard along with a healthy Zach Allen, should in theory improve the defensive line tremendously to bolster Peters and Jones. Still probably need to find another DT though.Split T wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:06 amI’m not able to watch enough cardinals games to have a super informed opinion, but trying to fit everyone onto the field seems like a pretty big upgrade from last years defense.In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:38 amIt feels like Hicks being the leading tackler doesn't mean much on a terrible defense and couldn't stop a TE if their life depended on it. Linebackers usually lead the league in tackles. I could be wrong, and Hicks might be great. Campbell was the leading tackler from Atl, and had shown the ability to cover TEs. My guess is that he was an upgrade on the opposite ILB.
You might be right, they might be able to play him all over the field at different positions, but I'm a little worried about him being a jack of all trades and master of none. You would think he could be a better version of Darryl Washington with some cover skills, but some think he could be the next coming of Sean Taylor. Not sure which is more valuable and I don't know much about Thompson, other than they were stoked to get him in the 5th round and thought he could have had a 1st round grade in this draft if he played college last yr. Sounded like he got better at the end of the yr and was young.
What I know, we’ve got 4 starter quality linebackers(Jones, Hicks, Campbell, Kennard) including one who’s All-Pro level. We’ve got 2 Pro-Bowl DB’s(PP and BB) 2 promising rookie DB’s(Thompson and Murphy) Add Simmons to that and if Alford is healthy and ready to go, we have 10 solid to elite LB/DB guys in the rotation. I have some doubts about the defensive line and the corner opposite PP, but we should have a respectable defense this year. Add in what I think will be a top tier offense, and we can do some damage.
I was talking to a friend yesterday and if you consider Pat P as an addition after he had a down year with the suspension, Alford and Allen being healthy and Thompson & Murphy coming off the rookie seasons, they could have upgraded 7 positions & depth on the defense with (Pat P, Alford, Allen, Murphy, Phillips, Kennard, Campbell, Thompson, Simmons) with Hicks, Jones, Peters and Baker coming back relatively the same, as expected. Shutdown corners(Peterson, Alford), pass rushers (Jones, Phillips, Kennard), and backline defense w/ ability to cover TEs(Campbell, Simmons, Baker), this should be a very fun defense and year.
Suns will always be my first love, and while I’m optimistic that they are turning the corner, I’m much more optimistic about the Cardinals. I think we’re legitimately good next year and make the playoffs. Kyler Murray is the best building block in Arizona sports. I’m not always great at scouting nfl players, I’m often wrong, but I really wanted Kyler and I’m happy to be right for once! Hopefully Simmons is another right pick!