Movies / TV Shows

[AmareIsGod]

I finished Ozark last week.

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My opinions:

I thought Season 1 was very good.

Season 2 wasn't as good, but still worth watching

Season 3 was bad. Like I regret spending time on it.

Season 4 was a mix of 3 and 2, probably more 3 than 2.

I will say that the 2nd half of Season 4 was better than the 1st half, but...

I thought Marty and Wendy and Ruth were pretty well written and were very well acted.

I thought Mel and Javi and Wendy's dad and Clare were just awfully written characters. Same for about 80% of Maya. Oh, and that FBI agent from Season 2 was awful, too. Can't remember his name.

Charlotte just seemed to be there to be there... nothing interesting for her. It was really weird how they ended one season with her seeking emancipation as a key story line, then just forgot about it to start the next season.

Anyway, I am ambivalent overall about if spending the time on the show was worth it, but I think I lean towards yes just for the sheer joy this tweet gave me:

What a bargain!

https://www.balenciaga.com/en-us/limite ... D1010.html

[Flagrant Fowl]

So did none of you guys watch Season 4 of Stranger Things?

I'll admit I lost focus a few times. The episodes are a bit fat for my taste, but episode 4 was a banger and the last two were pretty good because they finally advanced the plot a little.

I really hope the Joyce/Hopper/Russia thing is creatively tied in somehow. Otherwise that'll be a huge scar on a pretty good season.

[Superbone]

So did none of you guys watch Season 4 of Stranger Things?

I'll admit I lost focus a few times. The episodes are a bit fat for my taste, but episode 4 was a banger and the last two were pretty good because they finally advanced the plot a little.

I really hope the Joyce/Hopper/Russia thing is creatively tied in somehow. Otherwise that'll be a huge scar on a pretty good season.

Says who?! I binged it the weekend it became available. Yeah, each show was like a mini movie. I think the last one clocked in at an hour and 40 minutes. It’s much more intense than the first seasons. I like some of the new characters introduced.

[Indy]

I hated Season 3 so much that I said I wasn't going to watch Season 4.

For me it went:
Season 1--Oh this is good and really cool.
Season 2--Been there, done that. Kinda meh.
Season 3--Well below average.

The trend scared me away from it.

[Superbone]

I hated Season 3 so much that I said I wasn't going to watch Season 4.

For me it went:
Season 1--Oh this is good and really cool.
Season 2--Been there, done that. Kinda meh.
Season 3--Well below average.

The trend scared me away from it.

Tough crowd.

[AmareIsGod]

I hated Season 3 so much that I said I wasn't going to watch Season 4.

For me it went:
Season 1--Oh this is good and really cool.
Season 2--Been there, done that. Kinda meh.
Season 3--Well below average.

The trend scared me away from it.

Absolutely agree. Winona Ryder is total cringe season 2. Hopper is a SHITTY dad and treats Eleven like a prisoner which is terrible. The show goes off the rails and is crap season 3. We stopped at the beginning of season 3 after already asking each other during season 2, "we must have terrible taste. This show sucks". Everyone we know is in love with Stranger Things. It's so mediocre to bad that I just don't get it.

[Split T]

I loved season 1, thought season 2 was pretty meh. I liked season 3 more than 2, but it still wasn’t great. I’m only 3 episodes in, but season 4 is definitely much better than 2 and 3.

Season 1 - 8.7
Season 2 - 6.1
Season 3 - 6.4
Season 4 - Feels somewhere in the 8+ range again.

[Indy]

I loved season 1, thought season 2 was pretty meh. I liked season 3 more than 2, but it still wasn’t great. I’m only 3 episodes in, but season 4 is definitely much better than 2 and 3.

Season 1 - 8.7
Season 2 - 6.1
Season 3 - 6.4
Season 4 - Feels somewhere in the 8+ range again.

Do you rate every season of a TV show this way (like actually write it down?) or did you just do this for these seasons for this discussion?

Also, can you give me what a 0.0 show is, and what a 10.0 show is? I am assuming your scale is 0-10.

[Superbone]

I loved season 1, thought season 2 was pretty meh. I liked season 3 more than 2, but it still wasn’t great. I’m only 3 episodes in, but season 4 is definitely much better than 2 and 3.

Season 1 - 8.7
Season 2 - 6.1
Season 3 - 6.4
Season 4 - Feels somewhere in the 8+ range again.

Do you rate every season of a TV show this way (like actually write it down?) or did you just do this for these seasons for this discussion?

Also, can you give me what a 0.0 show is, and what a 10.0 show is? I am assuming your scale is 0-10.

And how about a blood sample while you're at it, Split?

[Indy]

lol. I am just curious because those are very specific numbers. That means you have a 100 point scale and use every number in it. I admire the dedication and thought that would have to go into that!

[Split T]

I loved season 1, thought season 2 was pretty meh. I liked season 3 more than 2, but it still wasn’t great. I’m only 3 episodes in, but season 4 is definitely much better than 2 and 3.

Season 1 - 8.7
Season 2 - 6.1
Season 3 - 6.4
Season 4 - Feels somewhere in the 8+ range again.

Do you rate every season of a TV show this way (like actually write it down?) or did you just do this for these seasons for this discussion?

Also, can you give me what a 0.0 show is, and what a 10.0 show is? I am assuming your scale is 0-10.

Haha, no I just made those numbers up off the top of my head.

I’m not sure anything would make it to 10.0 or 0.0, but my closest:

Growing up my sisters would watch that Jon and Kate plus 8 show…I just had zero interest in that and it would be like a 1 or less. Also any of those housewives shows(my fiancé watches them) I don’t see the appeal at all.

As for 10.0…my favorite show is probably Community. Non comedy I’d probably say the closest to 10.0 for me is Breaking Bad or the 1st season of Prison Break…but I’m also currently drawing a blank, there’s probably some show I’m forgetting.

[Split T]

lol. I am just curious because those are very specific numbers. That means you have a 100 point scale and use every number in it. I admire the dedication and thought that would have to go into that!

That was just me being dumb…didn’t think season 1 was quite a 9…probably could have just said 8.5…then I felt I had to do it for the other seasons too

[Indy]

Damnit! I was really hoping you had this scoring system for every season of every show you watched.

For me, I think the best Season of TV is Season 3 of The Wire. It is hard for me to do that with some other shows, because the seasons all kind of blend in together. Like I can't tell you where season 4 of Breaking Bad ended and Season 5 began. The Wire had that nice focus of different aspects of life for each season.

It is hard for me to give anything below a 4 or so, because if a show is bad I don't bother to watch it (unless it is a family thing like Stranger Things was).

[Split T]

Somehow I haven’t managed to watch The Wire…I should fix that

[Indy]

It is 20 years old now, but man does it hold up.

[Shabazz]

It is 20 years old now, but man does it hold up.

I watched it for the first time about a year ago. I loved it. I don't think it's "the best show in the history of television" as some have called it, but it's really good and well done. One of the most underrated things about it is the banter (like between Jimmy and Bunk). It could be a legitimately funny show.

Breaking Bad season 4 is a 10.0 for me. That's the best season of a show I can remember. It's actually got a fairly tight ending (think "Face Off") because when it was made they didn't know if they were getting renewed for S5.

[Flagrant Fowl]

I think "the best show" stuff was a legitimate claim at the time, but a lot of good TV has been produced since then. Like Indy said though, it still holds up.

I'm surprised no one has commented about We Own This City since it's essentially a spinoff of The Wire. I thought it was really good especially with how tightly they told the story.

[Superbone]

I think "the best show" stuff was a legitimate claim at the time, but a lot of good TV has been produced since then. Like Indy said though, it still holds up.

I'm surprised no one has commented about We Own This City since it's essentially a spinoff of The Wire. I thought it was really good especially with how tightly they told the story.

I’ve heard good things about it. I might have to watch it.

[Flagrant Fowl]

Hustle is a great basketball film. I can't put it above classics like He Got Game, Above the Rim, and White Men Can't Jump, but it's in that neighborhood, IMO.

[AmareIsGod]

Hustle is a great basketball film. I can't put it above classics like He Got Game, Above the Rim, and White Men Can't Jump, but it's in that neighborhood, IMO.

Which of your classics have aged best and worst in that list?