Tesla

[Nodack]

You could carry around a generator now and charge after you stop, not while driving. A 110 outlet is going to take 8 hours to charge a car. A generator to charge the battery while you are driving is sort of like a hybrid with a gas engine that runs the electric motor. You refuel your generator/engine gas tank every 300+ miles.

I don’t know what the time table is on building that nationwide electric car charging station every 50 miles thing is. That would go a long ways to building trust in traveling with an electric vehicle. Right now people would need to spend around an hour to charge to 80% and be on their way with a fast charger. The return of the drive thru restaurant with the added twist of charging your car could be a big hit in tomorrow’s market business model. Half way between Phoenix and L.A. Half way between Phoenix and Vegas. Charge while you eat and then be on your way.

[Nodack]

eBussy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mikeshouts.com/ebussy-electric-vehicle-by-electricbrands/amp/




Canoo
https://www.canoo.com/canoo/




https://www.motortrend.com/news/atlis-xt-prototype-pickup-first-look-review/

Atlis XT

[In2ition]

If you are to drive across the country in an electric car, assuming that's possible, when you stop to charge the car, is it free to the user? How does that work?

[Indy]

Tesla used to include free charging for their vehicles at their charging stations, but got rid of that a couple years ago. It works just like paying for gas.

[In2ition]

Thanks. I assumed for awhile that it was free. What is the price of charging a car?

[Indy]

Not easy to estimate because all cars are different (like filling your Prius to drive 300 miles or your Suburban). But typically you can figure about $1 for 10-15 miles. So if you typically get 250 miles on a full charge, you would pay $20-22 bucks to fill your battery at a commercial fast charger.

At $5/gallon, you would need to get at least 50-75 mpg to get an equal amount of mileage for your dollar.

Obviously it is a lot cheaper to charge at home on a slower charging system.

[In2ition]

Good to know. I had someone tell me that it was about $0.32 per minute for a charge, and that didn't seem right.

[Indy]

Good to know. I had someone tell me that it was about $0.32 per minute for a charge, and that didn't seem right.

That could be true. If you use a fast charge and take an hour to charge, that is $19.20 per hour. And I think the fast charge will take you from 10% to 80% in an hour for most vehicles. If you have a 250 mile range, 70% of that is 175 miles. So you got just over 9 miles per dollar (or the equivalent of about 46 mpg at $5/gallon of gas).

[AmareIsGod]

Good to know. I had someone tell me that it was about $0.32 per minute for a charge, and that didn't seem right.

That could be true. If you use a fast charge and take an hour to charge, that is $19.20 per hour. And I think the fast charge will take you from 10% to 80% in an hour for most vehicles. If you have a 250 mile range, 70% of that is 175 miles. So you got just over 9 miles per dollar (or the equivalent of about 46 mpg at $5/gallon of gas).

Yep. It's kind of wild. We maybe charge the Tesla at a fast charger / commercial charger once every couple of months. Slow charging at home gets us about 80% charge in 6 hours, which is perfect overnight. The only time the fast charger / commercial charger is needed is for road trips. I'm sure as our toddler gets a little older, we'll have more road trips which will make testing using that infrastructure a pretty new potentially painful experience.

[Indy]

Good to know. I had someone tell me that it was about $0.32 per minute for a charge, and that didn't seem right.

That could be true. If you use a fast charge and take an hour to charge, that is $19.20 per hour. And I think the fast charge will take you from 10% to 80% in an hour for most vehicles. If you have a 250 mile range, 70% of that is 175 miles. So you got just over 9 miles per dollar (or the equivalent of about 46 mpg at $5/gallon of gas).

Yep. It's kind of wild. We maybe charge the Tesla at a fast charger / commercial charger once every couple of months. Slow charging at home gets us about 80% charge in 6 hours, which is perfect overnight. The only time the fast charger / commercial charger is needed is for road trips. I'm sure as our toddler gets a little older, we'll have more road trips which will make testing using that infrastructure a pretty new potentially painful experience.

I should know this, but do they make convertors so you aren't stuck using only Tesla branded charging stations (since Tesla chose to ignore the international standard for EV charging connectors)?

[AmareIsGod]

Good to know. I had someone tell me that it was about $0.32 per minute for a charge, and that didn't seem right.

That could be true. If you use a fast charge and take an hour to charge, that is $19.20 per hour. And I think the fast charge will take you from 10% to 80% in an hour for most vehicles. If you have a 250 mile range, 70% of that is 175 miles. So you got just over 9 miles per dollar (or the equivalent of about 46 mpg at $5/gallon of gas).

Yep. It's kind of wild. We maybe charge the Tesla at a fast charger / commercial charger once every couple of months. Slow charging at home gets us about 80% charge in 6 hours, which is perfect overnight. The only time the fast charger / commercial charger is needed is for road trips. I'm sure as our toddler gets a little older, we'll have more road trips which will make testing using that infrastructure a pretty new potentially painful experience.

I should know this, but do they make convertors so you aren't stuck using only Tesla branded charging stations (since Tesla chose to ignore the international standard for EV charging connectors)?

They do. The adapters come standard in a carry pouch. We keep the pouch under the trunk.

[Nodack]

U.S. opens special probe into fatal Tesla pedestrian crash in California
https://news.yahoo.com/u-opens-probe-fa ... 52083.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. auto safety regulators have opened a special investigation into a fatal pedestrian crash in California involving a 2018 Tesla Model 3 where an advanced driver assistance system is suspected of use.

The San Diego Union-Tribune reported on June 7 that a Tesla went airborne and struck and killed a woman. NBC-7 in San Diego said a 39-year-old man was charged with vehicular manslaughter and driving under the influence of drugs in the incident.

A 2015 Tesla rear-ended a tractor-trailer in the Gainesville area at a rest area off Interstate 75, the Florida Highway Patrol said in a police report. Both people in the Tesla were pronounced dead at the scene.

NHTSA opened a preliminary evaluation to assess the performance of the system in 765,000 vehicles after about a dozen crashes in which Tesla vehicles struck stopped emergency vehicles - and said last month it had identified six additional crashes.