Mueller/Russia investigation

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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation

Postby Superbone » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:45 pm

Indy wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:We haven't really had any chitchat here about this whole Nunes memo thing. I found the whole thing ridiculous and reprehensible. The GOP is trying to undermine the DOJ and FBI. This should be cause for huge concern; our administration is trying to attack the government and challenge justice and the rule of law. And now that it appears to be a Grade A nothing-burger, there seems to be no consequence for the whole charade.

That is correct. There are no consequences anymore.

It's shock and awe without the awe.
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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation

Postby Indy » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:24 pm

Today was not a good day on the markets.
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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation

Postby Superbone » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:43 pm

Yeah, it was strange that Trump didn't jump to take credit. Strangely silent on that one.
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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation

Postby Nodack » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:52 pm

CNN was playing a montage of clips of Trump taking credit for the stock market doing well and rubbing his nose in it. What is sad is the partisanship that happens. I have grown to dislike that man so much that I am almost cheering the stock market plunging just because it makes him look bad. I have a stake in the market and should be scared or bummed. Instead I am happy and there is something wrong with that. It must be the same way Republicans felt about Obama. You just get to a point where you want them to fail. It’s really sad.

I considered CNN one of the most unbiased news sources not that long ago. Trump and CNN’s boss don’t like each other and Trump has called them fake news, starting a war between them. It’s clear CNN doesn’t like Trump in their coverage. Then again neither do I. The Republican memo thing broke and they were all over it saying the memo was a joke and really was just Trump/Republicans trying to discredit the FBI to take the sting out of the Trump/Russia investigation.

Then go to FOX News and their coverage of the exact same thing is a complete 180. Accoring to FOX the memo totally busts the FBI who clearly was being run by Obama and his deep state friends. Obama and his deep state friends at the DOJ, FBI illegally targeted Carter Page, a Trump campaign member for political reasons.

In my Universe I side with CNN. The GOP cherry picked what they wanted and left out everything else. Their time line is off too. They say the Steele dossier thing was illegal because Hillary paid for it and used Russian spies or something making her a traitor somehow. Steele has also been crucified and made into the devil. His dossier has been called politically motivated made up BS. In reality he is a very respected man in the Intelligence community.

I suppose it all depends on what Universe you live in as to what you are going to believe. In my Universe Trump is a narcissistic serial lying racist sexual predator ego maniac draft dodging traitor con man. To others he is just shy of being God and everybody else is lying. Only he is telling the truth.
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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation

Postby Marty [Mori Chu] » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:16 am

I can't watch CNN. They have become openly partisan. They're "right" in that Trump is horrible, but that doesn't mean I want to watch sneering coverage that openly mocks Republicans and taunts the President at every opportunity. I want honest coverage that calls him on his BS while not openly cheerleading for any particular political party. This is extremely hard to find right now.

As for the stock market drop, I wrote this on Facebook:

The stock market took a big drop this week, dropping over 1500 points in one day.

Some folks are blaming the President, and/or taunting him because he previously has crowed about how high the stock market has been. I don't think the President is to blame for this. It sounds like it's more related to possible interest rate changes by the Federal Reserve.

I just wanted to say, I think it's silly that we say the economy is strong when the stock market goes up, and that the economy is weak when the stock market goes down. The stock market isn't the economy. It's just gambling for grown-ups. The market is mostly run by high-frequency trading bots and billionaires. It doesn't reflect the reality of most people or even most businesses. I just don't think it is a very important indicator of anything about the country or economy as a whole. And I don't think it is the President's doing when the stock market goes up or down.
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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation

Postby Superbone » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:54 pm

If the president wants to take credit for the stock market then he needs to take the blame as well.
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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation

Postby Cap » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:43 pm

Superbone wrote:If the president wants to take credit for the stock market then he needs to take the blame as well.

The market is still a lot higher than it was at his election or inauguration, so this isn't really a winning argument.
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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation

Postby Nodack » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:57 am

The stock market had been going up for 8 straight years. The economy has been steadily improving for 8 straight years. I could have been elected and have the same results.

I am just sick of having a total a****** douchbag serial liar as our leader who is trying real hard to dismantle all of our institutions and destroy their credabilty. We should have just hired Putin if we wanted that.
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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation

Postby Cap » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:23 pm

Cap wrote:
Superbone wrote:If the president wants to take credit for the stock market then he needs to take the blame as well.

The market is still a lot higher than it was at his election or inauguration, so this isn't really a winning argument.

After today the market is back where it was around his inauguration. Still significantly higher than the election.
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