2020 Election Thread

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by AmareIsGod » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:46 pm

Giuliani was leaking some shit from head head today. They were making some crazy claims that the (late) Hugo Chavez and communists are behind the vote fraud that they said is occurring and that Trump will win. Bunch of nut jobs. And half the country eats this shit up as fact.
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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Nodack » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:52 pm

“If you think you are having a bad day, Trump is watching Biden’s inaugural stage being built on the North lawn of the White House.”

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Superbone » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:28 pm

Nodack wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:52 pm
“If you think you are having a bad day, Trump is watching Biden’s inaugural stage being built on the North lawn of the White House.”
I LOVE that!
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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Mori Chu » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:35 pm

I'm getting more and more worried about the Trump coup attempt. I don't think he can reverse the election result, but the fact that Michigan is seriously considering not certifying its election results based on no evidence is deeply concerning. How do we come back from this?

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Indy » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:11 pm

Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:35 pm
I'm getting more and more worried about the Trump coup attempt. I don't think he can reverse the election result, but the fact that Michigan is seriously considering not certifying its election results based on no evidence is deeply concerning. How do we come back from this?
You prosecute everyone for everything. Not doing so means it is OK to violate the law.

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Nodack » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:42 am

We have never had a President who was willing to start a Civil War just to stay in office before. Trump will go down in the History books as the guy who single handedly destroyed Democracy if there still is an America left after Trump. Republican law makers willing to go along with his BS are just as complicit.

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by ShelC » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:23 pm

The government needs a reset. Rs and Ds are both playing the same game in terms of power and wealth so no one's willing to call anyone out or start any investigations. I'd love to see a true independent, free from dark money, lobbies, foreign govts make a run with actual pols from the left and right willing to work together and reimagine Washington. These 70-80 yr olds holding onto power and playing one against the other all need to be put out to pasture.

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Indy » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:35 pm

ShelC wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:23 pm
The government needs a reset. Rs and Ds are both playing the same game in terms of power and wealth so no one's willing to call anyone out or start any investigations. I'd love to see a true independent, free from dark money, lobbies, foreign govts make a run with actual pols from the left and right willing to work together and reimagine Washington. These 70-80 yr olds holding onto power and playing one against the other all need to be put out to pasture.
You first need to make dark money illegal in politics, starting with CU. Without that, I just don't see how another/new party could compete. I mean, it would be like if the NBA had no cap or revenue sharing or collective bargaining agreement. There would end up being just a handful of teams, and no chance for anyone else.

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Nodack » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:10 am

Trump on numerous occasions in rallies and including the debate said if Biden is elected the stock market would crash.



https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump ... rediction/

Biden was elected and the stock market just hit an all time record high.

Trump did a press conference today for just over a minute. He wanted to make sure we gave him the credit for the stock market being up.


Trump and other Republicans such as Ted Cruz also made another prediction months ago.

"If it ends up that Biden wins in November...I guarantee you, the week after the election suddenly all those Democratic governors, all those Democratic mayors, will say, 'Everything is magically better. Go back to work, go back to school.' Suddenly, the problems are solved," Cruz said in the July 22 clip.
https://www.newsweek.com/clip-ted-cruz- ... es-1549618

You couldn’t have been any wronger Cruz.

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by specialsauce » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:17 pm

I could be wrong but doesn’t the stock market rise with every election historically?

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Indy » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:29 pm

specialsauce wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:17 pm
I could be wrong but doesn’t the stock market rise with every election historically?
For the most part, all the market does is rise (with few exceptions). The more our laws and politicians bend over backwards to encourage companies over people, it won't change.

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Superbone » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:44 pm

Indy wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:29 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:17 pm
I could be wrong but doesn’t the stock market rise with every election historically?
For the most part, all the market does is rise (with few exceptions). The more our laws and politicians bend over backwards to encourage companies over people, it won't change.
This. Trump had nothing to do the the market rising although he tells everybody he did. It rose Obama's entire 8 years. It's risen since the beginning of the stock market. Sure, there are ups a downs along the way, but it has always gone up over time. My bet would be that the Dow will be at $60,000 in 10 years from now.
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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Nodack » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:10 am

It will almost always be hitting record highs, just like we will have more and more record turnouts in elections because populations tend to grow year after year.

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

Post by Cap » Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:19 am

Yup. Dow returns average about 10% a year over the long run. Bear markets lasting several years can and do happen, but they’re always balanced out by bull markets in the end.

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