2020 Election Thread

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Cap wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:33 pm
Superbone wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:20 pm
Trump lost bigly. By over 7 million votes.
Trump lost barely. Biden’s total margin of victory was 43,809 votes in Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin. The national popular vote doesn’t mean anything, as Al Gore and Hillary Clinton can tell you.
Scoreboard says Biden won 306 to 232 in EC votes. However you want to slice it, Trump lost. Biden got more votes than any president in American history.
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That can't be true. Trump had more yard signs and people at his super spreader events...

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Fat lady hasn't sang yet fellas...

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Supreme court has denied Texas effort today that would have nullified the presidential elections.. BUT IMO this is a good thing.. now the dopey dems will see fair is fair AND now Trump can launch the insurrection act, General Thomas McInerney is openly calling on President Trump to recognize severity of the cyber war assault on America by invoking the Insurrection Act, suspending Habeas Corpus (as Lincoln did) and initiate mass arrests under military authority.
This call by Gen. McInerney, a highly-accomplished military veteran and loyal patriot, appears to be stemming from a realization that much of the existing government has gone rogue and is now colluding with enemies of the nation. State governors have gone rogue, court judges have gone rogue and state election officials have willfully engaged in coordinated, treasonous election rigging in order to achieve the overthrow of the executive leader, President Trump.
When government officials go rogue, and courts cannot be trusted, military authority can be invoked by the President, complete with mass arrests of treasonous actors, military tribunals that bypass the civilian court system, and the military seizure of all corporations that are actively working to undermine the United States of America. This would obviously include Big Tech and most of the left-wing media that has been complicit in election rigging and acts of journo-terrorism designed to plunge this nation into despair.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_parte_Milligan
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Good luck with that.

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bIGDRAWLS0072 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:48 am
Fat lady hasn't sang yet fellas...
Dude, it's over. It's been over for weeks. You need to find better, more informed content. Don't believe everything you read. Especially from suspect sources.
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As much as has been made over the collective tantrum from the left in 2016 over Hillary's loss, the right-wing's breakdown is just disturbing. I don't ever recall the left calling for Obama to de-classify things or Hillary and Dems calling for acts of violence or Hillary not conceding and rage tweeting over the results. The right basked in the left's defeat and made fun of their crying, only to now deny Biden's victory altogether, prevent a smooth transition, sue everyone and everything, refuse mere formalities that Biden won and even go so far as to start calling for civil war 4 years later because their own Dear Leader lost. Have some self-awareness and perspective at least.

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ShelC wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:01 pm
As much as has been made over the collective tantrum from the left in 2016 over Hillary's loss, the right-wing's breakdown is just disturbing. I don't ever recall the left calling for Obama to de-classify things or Hillary and Dems calling for acts of violence or Hillary not conceding and rage tweeting over the results. The right basked in the left's defeat and made fun of their crying, only to now deny Biden's victory altogether, prevent a smooth transition, sue everyone and everything, refuse mere formalities that Biden won and even go so far as to start calling for civil war 4 years later because their own Dear Leader lost. Have some self-awareness and perspective at least.
Of course not. Because the people wanting Hillary (at least most of us) were much more against Trump than for Hillary. We knew Trump was a racist, sexist, xenophobic scammer. But inciting violence only enables sociopaths.

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ShelC wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:01 pm
As much as has been made over the collective tantrum from the left in 2016 over Hillary's loss, the right-wing's breakdown is just disturbing. I don't ever recall the left calling for Obama to de-classify things or Hillary and Dems calling for acts of violence or Hillary not conceding and rage tweeting over the results. The right basked in the left's defeat and made fun of their crying, only to now deny Biden's victory altogether, prevent a smooth transition, sue everyone and everything, refuse mere formalities that Biden won and even go so far as to start calling for civil war 4 years later because their own Dear Leader lost. Have some self-awareness and perspective at least.
The characterisation of their arguments is completely ignorant at best and dishonestly misleading. The whole thing is about obvious anomalies and statistical impossibilities. It's about an honest election and election results. Conservatives and Republicans aren't afraid of losing a fair result. That's a ludicrous assumption, and chararizing them as following Hitler is disgusting. If you guys feel that way, you're all a sad sorry bunch of people.

I've seen Superbone seem to advocate for blood in the streets. Listen to yourself. If the vote wasn't real it deluded everyone's vote. It means it will continue in the future and the elections going forward are a fucking joke. Idk how you can't see that, no matter who you voted for we should all want that. It's not rocket science.

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The votes are legitimate whether you like or not. Yes, I would advocate blood in the streets if a fair election was overturned. That’s not America. Thankfully, America came through in spite of the continuous bullshit claims. I feel pretty sad for so many duped Americans that lack critical thinking skills.
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Superbone wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:23 pm
The votes are legitimate whether you like or not. Yes, I would advocate blood in the streets if a fair election was overturned. That’s not America. Thankfully, America came through in spite of the continuous bullshit claims. I feel pretty sad for so many duped Americans that lack critical thinking skills.
You clearly haven't looked at the claims from experts, witnesses and everyone willing to sign an affidavit subject to perjury. Sure, legitimate votes are legitimate, but not if they were changed or done outside the law. That's the issue. So maybe sit this one out if don't know what you're talking about, because you made it clear you don't.
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In2ition wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:23 pm
The votes are legitimate whether you like or not. Yes, I would advocate blood in the streets if a fair election was overturned. That’s not America. Thankfully, America came through in spite of the continuous bullshit claims. I feel pretty sad for so many duped Americans that lack critical thinking skills.
You clearly haven't looked at the claims from experts, witnesses and everyone willing to sign an affidavit subject to perjury. Sure, legitimate votes are legitimate, but not if they were changed or done outside the law. That's the issue. So maybe sit this one out if don't know what you're talking about, because you made it clear you don't.
So the republican governors and secretaries of state and state judges and district judges and SCOTUS justices are all in on the scam?

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In2ition wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:23 pm
The votes are legitimate whether you like or not. Yes, I would advocate blood in the streets if a fair election was overturned. That’s not America. Thankfully, America came through in spite of the continuous bullshit claims. I feel pretty sad for so many duped Americans that lack critical thinking skills.
You clearly haven't looked at the claims from experts, witnesses and everyone willing to sign an affidavit subject to perjury. Sure, legitimate votes are legitimate, but not if they were changed or done outside the law. That's the issue. So maybe sit this one out if don't know what you're talking about, because you made it clear you don't.
I guess the Republican stacked Supreme Court and other jurisdictions don't know what they're talking about either. Since, you know, every case is being rejected. But keep educating us.
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Election fraud is nothing new. It's been going on forever all over the world. It's just never been as blatant and obvious as this time.

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In2ition wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:23 pm
The votes are legitimate whether you like or not. Yes, I would advocate blood in the streets if a fair election was overturned. That’s not America. Thankfully, America came through in spite of the continuous bullshit claims. I feel pretty sad for so many duped Americans that lack critical thinking skills.
You clearly haven't looked at the claims from experts, witnesses and everyone willing to sign an affidavit subject to perjury. Sure, legitimate votes are legitimate, but not if they were changed or done outside the law. That's the issue. So maybe sit this one out if don't know what you're talking about, because you made it clear you don't.
You’re the one that should be sitting it out. You don’t know what you’re talking about. And I’ll leave it there. I’m not interested in arguing with your copious bullshit.
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Indy wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:05 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:23 pm
The votes are legitimate whether you like or not. Yes, I would advocate blood in the streets if a fair election was overturned. That’s not America. Thankfully, America came through in spite of the continuous bullshit claims. I feel pretty sad for so many duped Americans that lack critical thinking skills.
You clearly haven't looked at the claims from experts, witnesses and everyone willing to sign an affidavit subject to perjury. Sure, legitimate votes are legitimate, but not if they were changed or done outside the law. That's the issue. So maybe sit this one out if don't know what you're talking about, because you made it clear you don't.
So the republican governors and secretaries of state and state judges and district judges and SCOTUS justices are all in on the scam?
Which claim are you speaking about?
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:07 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:34 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:23 pm
The votes are legitimate whether you like or not. Yes, I would advocate blood in the streets if a fair election was overturned. That’s not America. Thankfully, America came through in spite of the continuous bullshit claims. I feel pretty sad for so many duped Americans that lack critical thinking skills.
You clearly haven't looked at the claims from experts, witnesses and everyone willing to sign an affidavit subject to perjury. Sure, legitimate votes are legitimate, but not if they were changed or done outside the law. That's the issue. So maybe sit this one out if don't know what you're talking about, because you made it clear you don't.
I guess the Republican stacked Supreme Court and other jurisdictions don't know what they're talking about either. Since, you know, every case is being rejected. But keep educating us.
Have they looked at the evidence? I thought nearly every case was rejected over procedure or standing or they don't want to decide on the size and scope of what's asked.
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