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Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:03 am
The President willfully taking classified documents with him when leaving the White House, lying about having them, and refusing to give them back / hiding them from investigators who came asking for them. Those parts seem illegal to me.
It's against the law for the President taking & keeping classified & unclassified documents?
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Presidents and vice Presidents have accidentally taken or forgotten to give back classified docs before. They find them and give them back. Biden and Pence the most recent.

Trump took a truck load of them on purpose and stored most of them in various places in his resort not secured, right out in the open. He gave tours to people bragging about having them. They knew he took them and they asked for them back nicely. Trump said he had no idea what they were talking about. (Lie) Then, they upped the ante and subpoenaed the documents. Then he all of the sudden found some and turned them in. They knew he took a lot more and he obviously was going to play games with them so they searched his property and found a truckload of them. He had some in his desk right next to his Passport. What does Trump say? All they had to do is ask and I would have gave them back. LIE, they already did.of course he has come up with various reasons as to why he has them. “They are mine!, I declassified them by looking at them. They paid Nixon a lot of money to get his back.”
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"Hur’s report showed that Joe Biden not only willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.

Biden’s leaks of classified information are deemed to be so serious that the Intelligence Community is now performing a “damage assessment” to ascertain the extent they compromised national security."
Judge Cannon Takes Wrecking Ball to Trump Classified Docs Case Citing Robert Hur’s Report
By thepoliticsbrief - March 14, 2024
https://thepoliticsbrief.com/judge-cann ... rs-report/
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Nodack wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:39 am
Presidents and vice Presidents have accidentally taken or forgotten to give back classified docs before. They find them and give them back. Biden and Pence the most recent.

Trump took a truck load of them on purpose and stored most of them in various places in his resort not secured, right out in the open. He gave tours to people bragging about having them. They knew he took them and they asked for them back nicely. Trump said he had no idea what they were talking about. (Lie) Then, they upped the ante and subpoenaed the documents. Then he all of the sudden found some and turned them in. They knew he took a lot more and he obviously was going to play games with them so they searched his property and found a truckload of them. He had some in his desk right next to his Passport. What does Trump say? All they had to do is ask and I would have gave them back. LIE, they already did.of course he has come up with various reasons as to why he has them. “They are mine!, I declassified them by looking at them. They paid Nixon a lot of money to get his back.”
Vice Presidents and Senators aren't allowed to take classified documents, let alone forget that they kept them for years(even though Biden didn't forget that he kept them, as he went to find them where he knew he kept them when talking to his ghost writer).
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In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:46 am
"Hur’s report showed that Joe Biden not only willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.

Biden’s leaks of classified information are deemed to be so serious that the Intelligence Community is now performing a “damage assessment” to ascertain the extent they compromised national security."
Judge Cannon Takes Wrecking Ball to Trump Classified Docs Case Citing Robert Hur’s Report
By thepoliticsbrief - March 14, 2024
https://thepoliticsbrief.com/judge-cann ... rs-report/
But when Trump does all of that it’s fine, as long as he procured them while President?
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JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:24 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:46 am
"Hur’s report showed that Joe Biden not only willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.

Biden’s leaks of classified information are deemed to be so serious that the Intelligence Community is now performing a “damage assessment” to ascertain the extent they compromised national security."
Judge Cannon Takes Wrecking Ball to Trump Classified Docs Case Citing Robert Hur’s Report
By thepoliticsbrief - March 14, 2024
https://thepoliticsbrief.com/judge-cann ... rs-report/
But when Trump does all of that it’s fine, as long as he procured them while President?
It's almost like there are different rules for Presidents, than there is for everyone else. Who knew?
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In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:00 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:24 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:46 am
"Hur’s report showed that Joe Biden not only willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.

Biden’s leaks of classified information are deemed to be so serious that the Intelligence Community is now performing a “damage assessment” to ascertain the extent they compromised national security."
Judge Cannon Takes Wrecking Ball to Trump Classified Docs Case Citing Robert Hur’s Report
By thepoliticsbrief - March 14, 2024
https://thepoliticsbrief.com/judge-cann ... rs-report/
But when Trump does all of that it’s fine, as long as he procured them while President?
It's almost like there are different rules for Presidents, than there is for everyone else. Who knew?
“willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.”

Nope. None of those crimes are okay for Presidents or former Presidents to commit.
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JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:07 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:00 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:24 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:46 am
"Hur’s report showed that Joe Biden not only willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.

Biden’s leaks of classified information are deemed to be so serious that the Intelligence Community is now performing a “damage assessment” to ascertain the extent they compromised national security."
Judge Cannon Takes Wrecking Ball to Trump Classified Docs Case Citing Robert Hur’s Report
By thepoliticsbrief - March 14, 2024
https://thepoliticsbrief.com/judge-cann ... rs-report/
But when Trump does all of that it’s fine, as long as he procured them while President?
It's almost like there are different rules for Presidents, than there is for everyone else. Who knew?
“willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.”

Nope. None of those crimes are okay for Presidents or former Presidents to commit.
We will have to just agree to disagree about what the President did or didn't do. There has been a lot of false reporting on the storage, handling, misleading and divulging.
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In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:12 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:07 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:00 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:24 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:46 am

Judge Cannon Takes Wrecking Ball to Trump Classified Docs Case Citing Robert Hur’s Report
By thepoliticsbrief - March 14, 2024
https://thepoliticsbrief.com/judge-cann ... rs-report/
But when Trump does all of that it’s fine, as long as he procured them while President?
It's almost like there are different rules for Presidents, than there is for everyone else. Who knew?
“willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.”

Nope. None of those crimes are okay for Presidents or former Presidents to commit.
We will have to just agree to disagree about what the President did or didn't do. There has been a lot of false reporting on the storage, handling, misleading and divulging.
I’ve heard the audio myself of him divulging.

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JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:17 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:12 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:07 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:00 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:24 pm


But when Trump does all of that it’s fine, as long as he procured them while President?
It's almost like there are different rules for Presidents, than there is for everyone else. Who knew?
“willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.”

Nope. None of those crimes are okay for Presidents or former Presidents to commit.
We will have to just agree to disagree about what the President did or didn't do. There has been a lot of false reporting on the storage, handling, misleading and divulging.
I’ve heard the audio myself of him divulging.

“Oh, and bring me a Diet Coke.”
In this day and age where AI is used for deep fakes, I'll let the cases play out.
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In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:19 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:17 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:12 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:07 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:00 pm


It's almost like there are different rules for Presidents, than there is for everyone else. Who knew?
“willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.”

Nope. None of those crimes are okay for Presidents or former Presidents to commit.
We will have to just agree to disagree about what the President did or didn't do. There has been a lot of false reporting on the storage, handling, misleading and divulging.
I’ve heard the audio myself of him divulging.

“Oh, and bring me a Diet Coke.”
In this day and age where AI is used for deep fakes, I'll let the cases play out.
So you’re saying that your only defense of this audio is that it may possibly be fake?

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JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:24 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:19 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:17 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:12 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:07 pm


“willfully and intentionally mishandled classified documents, stored them in multiple insecure locations, and procured them while Senator and Vice President, but he also misled federal investigators, obstructed justice, and divulged national security secrets.”

Nope. None of those crimes are okay for Presidents or former Presidents to commit.
We will have to just agree to disagree about what the President did or didn't do. There has been a lot of false reporting on the storage, handling, misleading and divulging.
I’ve heard the audio myself of him divulging.

“Oh, and bring me a Diet Coke.”
In this day and age where AI is used for deep fakes, I'll let the cases play out.
So you’re saying that your only defense of this audio is that it may possibly be fake?

Meh, I can't say that it's fake. We'll see how this plays out.
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The Judge in the Trump Georgia case has decided NOT to remove DA Fani Willis over her affair. He does recommend that one of Willis or the lawyer Wade may want to step down to avoid the appearance of a conflict. Maybe now we can move on with this case.


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Trumpers threatening judges whose decisions they don't like.


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How do you know which side was threatening him?
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In2ition wrote:
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How do you know which side was threatening him?
:lol:

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They shouldn’t make that information public. Now the Trumpers know that they can delay Trump’s trial proceedings for weeks at a time just by making threats.
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JeremyG wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:04 pm
They shouldn’t make that information public. Now the Trumpers know that they can delay Trump’s trial proceedings for weeks at a time just by making threats.
There's some truth to that. But I also think people should hear how much Trump and his goons have normalized and facilitated political violence as a real problem in every aspect of American politics today.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:48 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:04 pm
They shouldn’t make that information public. Now the Trumpers know that they can delay Trump’s trial proceedings for weeks at a time just by making threats.
There's some truth to that. But I also think people should hear how much Trump and his goons have normalized and facilitated political violence as a real problem in every aspect of American politics today.
You think all or the high majority of political violence is Trump supporters?
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TOO wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:51 am
In2ition wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:29 am
How do you know which side was threatening him?
:lol:

Me: The sky is blue.

You: How do you know, did the sky tell you that?
Why this response? Seems a little unwarranted.
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