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Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:00 am
by Mori Chu
I can hardly put into words how frustrated/mad I am about Neil Gorsuch and the fact that he is probably going to be on the Supreme Court. That seat rightfully belongs to Merrick Garland. It's nuts that the GOP was able to block Obama from rightfully nominating a Justice for a full year and then hand the nomination over to the next President.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:31 pm
by 3rdside
I've paid scant attention to US politics over the years but the healthcare bill and now Gorsuch have me watching like car crash television - how in the actual fuck does that right wing sicko deserve that seat...
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Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:39 am
by ShelC
The Republicans gambled and it paid off. I think Gorsuch is more than qualified and about as middle of the road as you're going to get from the Republicans. They could've gone with a true right wing judge from the onset. I don't think the Dems should filibuster and force the Republicans to change the rules. I know a lot on the left want to do block him because that's what the Rs did and they'll look weak if they don't put up a fight, but you gotta pick your battles. This isn't the one to fight. And maybe, just maybe, try and cut a deal in some form or fashion. Approve Gorsuch to get something on healthcare or tax reform.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:43 am
by O_Gardino
I tend to agree with Shel on this issue. 538 weighed in on Gorsuch and found him to be fairly liberal for a Republican nominee.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/fo ... migration/
I do think this kind of filibuster should be illegal. We have laws that ensure that we always have people in office in other branches of the government, and I think we should have a similar situation that prevents the White House and Congress from "agreeing to disagree" and just not putting people into the judicial branch. But the Reps did something allowed under the law, and Dems should be glad the nomination is Gorsuch and not someone extremely right-wing.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:15 am
by Nodack
Gorsuch Doesn't sound too bad considering who they could have gotten.
The whole think stunk leading up to this point. Obama was President when the spot opened up and he nominated his guy. Republicans refused to even consider voting on Obama's pick and sat on it for an entire year hoping to get a Republican President in office. Their gamble worked. Democrats returned the favor and filibustered and Republicans went nuclear and changed the rules to get their guy in anyway.
Chalk up a win for Republicans.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:04 pm
by In2ition
There are conspiracy theories that Scalia was murdered, and maybe many Reps believe that is the case, idk. Oh well, when you make the bed..
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:10 pm
by Nodack
They say the CIA hired a hooker for $2000 a night and the hooker killed him with CIA heart attack inducing drugs under orders from the White House.
Sounds totally plausable.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:26 pm
by Indy
In2ition wrote:There are conspiracy theories that Scalia was murdered, and maybe many Reps believe that is the case, idk. Oh well, when you make the bed..
People don't really believe that, do they? That is like saying people believe the stuff that Alex Jones says.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:30 pm
by In2ition
Indy wrote:In2ition wrote:There are conspiracy theories that Scalia was murdered, and maybe many Reps believe that is the case, idk. Oh well, when you make the bed..
People don't really believe that, do they? That is like saying people believe the stuff that Alex Jones says.
8% of the population still believes that Elvis is alive. You'll find all kinds.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:36 pm
by Indy
In2ition wrote:Indy wrote:In2ition wrote:There are conspiracy theories that Scalia was murdered, and maybe many Reps believe that is the case, idk. Oh well, when you make the bed..
People don't really believe that, do they? That is like saying people believe the stuff that Alex Jones says.
8% of the population still believes that Elvis is alive. You'll find all kinds.
There is no way 8% is the number, even if you just mean Americans. That would mean you couldn't even fit everyone in the greater NYC area.
Regardless, you said many reps may believe that. I just can't fathom people that buy that.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:22 pm
by Cap
Here's a PPP poll from May.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main ... -lead.html
Among voters with a favorable opinion of Trump:
-65% think President Obama is a Muslim, only 13% think he's a Christian.
-59% think President Obama was not born in the United States, only 23% think that he was.
-27% think vaccines cause autism, 45% don't think they do, another 29% are not sure.
-24% think Antonin Scalia was murdered, just 42% think he died naturally, another 34% are unsure.
-7% think Ted Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of JFK, 55% think he was not involved, another 38% are unsure.
And closing the loop on the greatest conspiracy theory of this election- a rare one that Trump didn't embrace- 5% of voters nationally think Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer, 18% are unsure, and 77% find Cruz not guilty of the charge of being a serial killer in diapers. So at least he has that going for him.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:00 pm
by Indy
wow. i mean, at least this is filtered by people that had a favorable opinion of Trump last may. That rules out 50% of the GOP in Congress and the Senate.
Re: Supreme Court, Gorsuch, Garland
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:08 am
by Mori Chu
It's frightening how many people believe these ludicrous conspiracy theories these days.