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Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:45 am
by ShelC
IMO he was likely told about it and blew it off for one reason or another (didn't care, chose to ignore bc of Russia/Putin, didn't think it was worthy of any action) or he maybe wasn't told about it because his advisors felt it would be best to keep that info from him (unlikely but not out of the question given his supposed ties to Russia/Putin). I think I've seen previous reports that advisors have kept info from him because they don't trust him, but I think that would've been reported in this instance just the same.
There's been a pattern tho of him completely ignoring Russian actions or siding with/sucking up to Putin the past 4 years. Not surprising he didn't do anything and has denied any knowledge because that's pretty much been policy for 4 years now.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:09 am
by Nodack
I just assume whatever reason he does or doesn’t do anything is for the wrong reason.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:23 pm
by Mori Chu
The ODNI has just released a reporting finding that Russia, Iran, and China all worked to interfere in the 2020 election to help President Trump and hurt Biden and Democrats. They note that there is not evidence of any of them actively hacking voting machines or changing vote totals.
https://www.businessinsider.com/odni-20 ... ort-2021-3
https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/document ... 6MAR21.pdf
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:50 pm
by Mori Chu
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:57 pm
by AmareIsGod
Is any of this at all a surprise, especially after the prior election that Trump won that had a heavy reliance on Russia? The only shock I'd have would be somehow finding out they didn't try to mess with that election or this one.
I don't even think In2ition is stupid or naïve enough to think Russia has kept it clean both times and that Trump and the gang weren't bed buddies with them.
I find it ironic and laughable that he and others keep saying Biden didn't win the election and have mountains of evidence that can't be shared or accessed by anyone that there was fraud and Trump won. These same folks love to conveniently forget that Russia tried as hard as they could this time around to shape the outcome and had a huge part in shaping 2016.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:08 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
This has been going on for centuries, and the US government does its fair share of it as well.
The problem is when politicians solicit the intervention or assistance by foreign governments to aid in winning an election. "Russia, if you're listening..", for example.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:19 pm
by Mori Chu
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:01 pm
by Indy
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:08 pm
This has been going on for centuries, and the US government does its fair share of it as well.
very true. and I don't think anyone is saying we don't, or Russia or China or whomever shouldn't be doing it because it is bad. but we (I am directing this at Americans) are literally helping those foreign powers fuck over our country. Willfully. For a modicum of power. It is disgusting.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:22 pm
by Mori Chu
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:10 pm
by In2ition
It's interesting that that comes out right after this. Russia Russia Russia
U.S. Intel Walks Back Claim Russians Put Bounties on American Troops
"U.S. Intel Walks Back Claim Russians Put Bounties on American Troops"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-intel- ... can-troops
It was a huge election-time story that prompted cries of treason. But according to a newly disclosed assessment, Donald Trump might have been right to call it a “hoax.”
Adam Rawnsley
Spencer Ackerman
Asawin Suebsaeng
Updated Apr. 15, 2021 8:54PM ET Published Apr. 15, 2021 11:11AM ET
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:15 am
by Indy
Not sure you read all of the sides about this story, but the only part that is 'low-to-moderate' confidence is that money exchanged hands. There is 'high' confidence that the GRU coordinates with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Maybe they were there to swap cabbage soup recipes for some great mantoo recipes.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:24 am
by In2ition
This has been known forever. It's just coming out by the administration that it was BS. There have been reports that says it was China and Iran that were providing bounties. Here is the problem. Do you really think that the Taliban needs to be bribed to kill Americans? But keep pushing the Russian hoax more.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:55 am
by Indy
I don't get how all of the trump republicans think Russia is not an adversary that is actively looking to kill Americans and bring down our country.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:35 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
They aren't bribing the Taliban, they're incentivizing them.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:19 am
by In2ition
I could have put this under the Epstein thread, but I thought it would be better to go here.
Mueller witness pleads guilty in illegal scheme to funnel UAE money to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter | | January 17, 2022 07:55 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... 6-campaign
George Nader, a key witness in former special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation and a convicted child sex predator, quietly pleaded guilty last year to involvement in an illegal campaign finance scheme funneling millions of dollars from the United Arab Emirates into Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.
Nader, a Lebanese American lobbyist, was sentenced to 10 years in prison in June 2020 after pleading guilty to bringing an underage teenage boy to the United States for sex and possessing child pornography. What was not publicly known until recently was that he also pleaded guilty to an illegal foreign donation scheme.
The Department of Justice revealed in a December sentencing memo that Nader had pleaded guilty to a single count on July 22, 2020. The court filing says Nader and Ahmad “Andy” Khawaja, a Los Angeles-based chief executive of Allied Wallet, “orchestrated a scheme to funnel over $3.5 million in foreign funds into the 2016 presidential election.” The DOJ added that they “did so to gain direct access to unsuspecting high-level political figures to further their professional endeavors: in the defendant’s case, out of a desire to lobby on behalf and advance the interests of his client, the government of the United Arab Emirates; in Khawaja’s case, in the hopes of securing political appointment in the future.”
Nader was indicted in December 2019 for what prosecutors said was his role in a scheme to conceal large sums of illegal campaign contributions to help Clinton in 2016. He was accused of conspiring with Khawaja to conceal the source of more than $3.5 million in campaign contributions to political committees associated with Clinton.
Khawaja gave more than $4 million to Clinton's campaign and other Democrats during the 2016 cycle but later donated $1 million to former President Donald Trump's inaugural committee after Clinton lost. As he shifted his focus to Republicans after the 2016 election, the Lebanese-born Khawaja met with Trump at a Manhattan fundraiser and got a photo with the president in the Oval Office.
Prosecutors said Nader agreed with them on sentencing guidelines, which would produce a range of 78-97 months behind bars, though the DOJ only asked for a 60-month sentence. The DOJ asked for the sentence to run consecutively to the child sex crime sentence.
The court docket now shows that the statement of offense and the criminal information against Nader were filed under seal in 2020, charging him with one count of “conspiracy to make conduit contributions, cause false statements, and cause false entries in records.” The Justice Department said it “was a purpose of the conspiracy to facilitate unlawful campaign contributions from Nader, through Khawaja, to political committees … in order to gain access to and influence with [Clinton] and others during and following the 2016 U.S. Presidential election.”
Prosecutors pointed last month to a July 2016 message from Nader to a senior UAE official in which he said he was “catching up with key figures in both camps" and "developing a steady, consistent and constructive relationship with both camps!”
Search warrants unsealed in 2019 revealed that the FBI found child pornography in Nader’s possession during the Mueller investigation. The warrants alleged that at least a dozen videos containing child pornography were found on his phones — some involving animals and boys as young as 2 years old.
Nader was also accused of taking a 14-year-old boy from the Czech Republic to his Washington, D.C., home in 2000 and using him for sex. Two years later, Czech authorities arrested Nader amid allegations that he had sex with underage boys in the Czech Republic between 1999 and 2002. He was convicted in May 2003 of molesting children, according to the search warrants.
When law enforcement in the U.S. learned of the 14-year-old boy in 2002, Nader had left the country. The judge ruled in the summer of 2020 that Nader must pay $150,000 in restitution to the victim.
Nader also pleaded guilty to a federal pornography charge in 1991 and was sentenced to six months in prison after he was found with two reels of videotape hidden in candy tins when he arrived at the Washington-Dulles International Airport.
“Minor Victim 1” — who was 14 years old when Nader brought him from the Czech Republic to the U.S., where the victim says Nader repeatedly sexually abused him — told the court in 2020 through a translator that “it was hell for me” as he explained the physical and mental anguish Nader had caused him. Now an adult with a wife and children, he said that the abuse by Nader still has an effect. “I hated myself and was ashamed of myself," he said, adding that Nader “has destroyed practically my entire life, which I am trying to put back together piece by piece.”
The Lebanese American businessman met with officials and associates of Trump’s circle and Russian and Middle Eastern officials in 2016 and 2017. He helped set up a January 2017 meeting in Seychelles between Trump associate and Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a Russian official.
Nader was mentioned more than 100 times in Mueller’s 448-page report on the Russia investigation, and he was interviewed by the special counsel team multiple times, including about possible efforts from the United Arab Emirates to influence members of Trump's campaign. Mueller "did not establish" any criminal collusion between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.
Records indicate that Nader visited the White House at least 13 times to meet with Trump’s chief strategist at the time, Steve Bannon.
The FBI claims that it did not discover that his devices contained child pornography until nearly a month after his interviews with the bureau. He was charged in April 2018 for possessing child pornography but wasn’t arrested until June 2019, upon his return to the U.S.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:55 am
by Mori Chu
Hey, remember this? Durham has lost every time in court trying to discredit the Trump/Russia investigation.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 6:19 am
by Mori Chu
Durham releases a report about the Trump/Russia investigation. Durham claims the FBI should not have so eagerly begun a full investigation into Trump. An analysis.
Re: Mueller/Russia investigation
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:03 pm
by In2ition
CIA Had Foreign Allies Spy On Trump Team, Triggering Russia Collusion Hoax, Sources Say
United States Intelligence Community targeted 26 Trump advisors for foreign spy agencies to “reverse target” and “bump”
by @Shellenberger @mtaibbiand @galexybrane
Last year, John Durham, a special prosecutor for the Department of Justice (DOJ), concluded that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) should never have opened its investigation of alleged collusion by then-presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and Russia in late July of 2016.
Now, multiple credible sources tell Public and Racket that the United States Intelligence Community (IC), including the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), illegally mobilized foreign intelligence agencies to target Trump advisors long before the summer of 2016.
The new information fills many gaps in our understanding of the Russia collusion hoax and is supported by testimony already in the public record.
Until now, the official story has been that the FBI’s investigation began after Australian intelligence officials told US officials that a Trump aide had boasted to an Australian diplomat that Russia had damning material about Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
In truth, the US IC asked the “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance to surveil Trump’s associates and share the intelligence they acquired with US agencies, say sources close to a House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HSPCI) investigation. The Five Eyes nations are the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
After Public and Racket had been told that President Barack Obama’s CIA Director, John Brennan, had identified 26 Trump associates for the Five Eyes to target, a source confirmed that the IC had “identified [them] as people to ‘bump,’ or make contact with or manipulate. They were targets of our own IC and law enforcement — targets for collection and misinformation.”
Unknown details about the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign and raw intelligence related to the IC’s surveillance of the Trump campaign are in a 10-inch binder that Trump ordered to be declassified at the very end of his term, sources told Public and Racket.
If the top-secret documents exist proving these charges, they are potentially proof that multiple US intelligence officials broke laws against spying and election interference.
CNN, Politico, The Guardian, and others reported in 2017 that the British Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), the UK’s equivalent of the National Security Agency (NSA), was the “principal whistleblower” in the investigation into the alleged ties between Trump and the Russian government.
“GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious ‘interactions’ between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence” wrote a team of reporters for The Guardian in April 2017.
This intelligence sharing was supposedly just the result of “incidental collection.” Reported The Guardian, “It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets.”
But now, sources say the GCHQ’s version of events is false. Instead, the US IC asked its foreign allies to target 26 members of Trump’s team, possibly to justify the FBI’s investigation.
“They were making contacts and bumping Trump people going back to March 2016,” a source close to the investigation said. “They were sending people around the UK, Australia, Italy — the Mossad in Italy. The MI6 was working at an intelligence school they had set up.”
The IC, a source said, considered the 26 Trump campaign people identified to “bump” or “reverse target,” or manipulate through confidential human sources (CHSs), to be easy marks because of their relative inexperience.
Doing so was illegal, both because US law prohibits such intelligence gathering unless authorized by a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant and because the weaponization of the IC for political purposes constitutes election interference.
Brennan, former President Barack Obama, under whom he served, and the CIA did not respond to requests by Public and Racket for comment. The Justice Department also declined to comment. But, the FBI and GCHQ did respond.
“The allegations that GCHQ was asked to conduct ‘wire tapping’ against the then president-elect are nonsense,” said a GCHQ spokesperson. “They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.”
However, in our email presenting the claims to GCHQ, we did not refer to "wiretapping" but rather to its UK spy agency’s broader alleged involvement in the scheme.
Said the FBI, “The conduct in 2016 and 2017 that [Justice Department] Special Counsel [John] Durham examined was the reason that current FBI leadership already implemented dozens of corrective actions, which have now been in place for some time. Had those reforms been in place in 2016, the missteps identified in the report could have been prevented.”
But the new information provided by our sources should significantly alter the public’s understanding of how the US IC, including the FBI and CIA, began their illegal investigation into the Trump campaign’s alleged collusion with Russia...