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Sheesh, lol. That would be awful.
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It'll happen, just the same way your violent party embraced other murders like Kyle Rittenhouse. If they kill libs, they become heroes.

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Are all libs pedophiles and domestic abusers that were attacking a kid? Rittenhouse isn't a murder, he was found not guilty and was using self-defense.
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In2ition wrote:
Fri May 17, 2024 10:11 am
Are all libs pedophiles and domestic abusers that were attacking a kid? Rittenhouse isn't a murder, he was found not guilty and was using self-defense.
That’s laughable. I saw what he was doing. He was roaming the streets looking for trouble. He came from far away to jump in the fray.
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Whether or not you consider Rittenhouse a murderer by the legal definition, he's definitely a killer, and he went to a high-tension area armed and looking for trouble. And then when he got there, he got into it with two other men and shot them dead. And now the GOP celebrates him *for doing that*. Whether or not he's guilty of any crime, IMO you should not elevate and celebrate somebody because they shot two people dead during a riot or protest. We should not celebrate killing in this way. Killing another human being, another American citizen, in a non-war environment, should be a very rare and somber thing, not a cause for celebrity.

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You also shouldn't libel someone either. I don't believe that you can relitigate this case, so you can be upset all you want, it's not changing the outcome of the case.
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He was found innocent in a court of law. You stand by that. I stand by that. Some might not agree with the outcome but, accept it as part of living in the US. Trump is in a court of law too. Whatever the outcome, it’s the system we have and I accept the verdict. Some won’t.
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What did Rittenhouse do that was worth celebrating, worthy of celebrity status?

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Nothing in particular, except he became public enemy number 1 of the left at the time. A little like Nicholas Sandman was for those 15 minutes of hate.
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Now Trump he says he wants to repeal a popular bipartisan gun law.


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We may get a verdict in this trial this week.


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Never heard of the trial. It sounds like he is definitely guilty. The only question is if he is insane. A graduate student? He sounds like he is pretty smart. They say there is a fine line between a genius and a crazy person. I’m glad I’m not on the jury.
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The police tried to keep anyone from seeing or reporting the shooters manifesto.


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I’m curious which article would a FOX viewer prefer to read? An article about a black man killing a white woman, an article about an immigrant killing a white woman or an article about a trans killing a white woman?
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The political difference is response to Aiden Hale is illuminating.

Hale did not receive gender-affirming care, or support from his parents or community. He developed serious mental issues and committed a mass shooting.

To liberals, if this is an example of what happens when gender-affirming care and support are withheld, it’s a reason to provide that care. We’ll have a healthier, happier, safer society if these children get the care they need than if they don’t.

To conservatives, it just means that transgendered people are bad, and anything that helps bad people is bad, and that’s why gender-affirming care and societal support should be denied.

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Cap wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:51 am
The political difference is response to Aiden Hale is illuminating.

Hale did not receive gender-affirming care, or support from his parents or community. He developed serious mental issues and committed a mass shooting.

To liberals, if this is an example of what happens when gender-affirming care and support are withheld, it’s a reason to provide that care. We’ll have a healthier, happier, safer society if these children get the care they need than if they don’t.

To conservatives, it just means that transgendered people are bad, and anything that helps bad people is bad, and that’s why gender-affirming care and societal support should be denied.
Counterpoint - This is an example of a person with mental health issues that needed mental health treatment for a mental health disorder, not "gender affirming care" where they are 12 times more likely to commit suicide afterwards.
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In2ition wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:28 am
Cap wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:51 am
The political difference is response to Aiden Hale is illuminating.

Hale did not receive gender-affirming care, or support from his parents or community. He developed serious mental issues and committed a mass shooting.

To liberals, if this is an example of what happens when gender-affirming care and support are withheld, it’s a reason to provide that care. We’ll have a healthier, happier, safer society if these children get the care they need than if they don’t.

To conservatives, it just means that transgendered people are bad, and anything that helps bad people is bad, and that’s why gender-affirming care and societal support should be denied.
Counterpoint - This is an example of a person with mental health issues that needed mental health treatment for a mental health disorder, not "gender affirming care" where they are 12 times more likely to commit suicide afterwards.
BS. https://www.hcplive.com/view/suicide-ri ... rming-care

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In2 selectively posts about crimes. If an immigrant did it, or an LGBTQ person, or a hated liberal, he rushes to post it here. If some brave MAGA patriot with a gun boner did it, crickets.

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Cap wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:24 am
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:28 am
Cap wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:51 am
The political difference is response to Aiden Hale is illuminating.

Hale did not receive gender-affirming care, or support from his parents or community. He developed serious mental issues and committed a mass shooting.

To liberals, if this is an example of what happens when gender-affirming care and support are withheld, it’s a reason to provide that care. We’ll have a healthier, happier, safer society if these children get the care they need than if they don’t.

To conservatives, it just means that transgendered people are bad, and anything that helps bad people is bad, and that’s why gender-affirming care and societal support should be denied.
Counterpoint - This is an example of a person with mental health issues that needed mental health treatment for a mental health disorder, not "gender affirming care" where they are 12 times more likely to commit suicide afterwards.
BS. https://www.hcplive.com/view/suicide-ri ... rming-care
Your article is completely BS. They made up their statistic and published it 2 years ago. You couldn't find anything newer? We have a much higher sample size to work from, with the boom in transgender surgeries. Here is an more updated study.
https://www.themainewire.com/2024/05/st ... f-suicide/
A new study conducted by the University of Texas Medical Branch has revealed that sex-change surgeries increase the risk of suicide by more than 12 times.

“Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not,” said the study.

The study is among the first — and most exhaustive — to provide actual analysis of the claim frequently advanced by advocates for sex-change surgeries that the procedures prevent gender dysphoric individuals from committing suicide.

The researchers conducted the study by examining anonymous data about patients with emergency hospital visits at 56 healthcare organizations, from 2003-2023, including data on millions of patients.
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In2ition wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:43 am
Cap wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:24 am
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:28 am
Cap wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:51 am
The political difference is response to Aiden Hale is illuminating.

Hale did not receive gender-affirming care, or support from his parents or community. He developed serious mental issues and committed a mass shooting.

To liberals, if this is an example of what happens when gender-affirming care and support are withheld, it’s a reason to provide that care. We’ll have a healthier, happier, safer society if these children get the care they need than if they don’t.

To conservatives, it just means that transgendered people are bad, and anything that helps bad people is bad, and that’s why gender-affirming care and societal support should be denied.y
Counterpoint - This is an example of a person with mental health issues that needed mental health treatment for a mental health disorder, not "gender affirming care" where they are 12 times more likely to commit suicide afterwards.
BS. https://www.hcplive.com/view/suicide-ri ... rming-care
Your article is completely BS. They made up their statistic and published it 2 years ago. You couldn't find anything newer? We have a much higher sample size to work from, with the boom in transgender surgeries. Here is an more updated study.
https://www.themainewire.com/2024/05/st ... f-suicide/
A new study conducted by the University of Texas Medical Branch has revealed that sex-change surgeries increase the risk of suicide by more than 12 times.

“Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not,” said the study.

The study is among the first — and most exhaustive — to provide actual analysis of the claim frequently advanced by advocates for sex-change surgeries that the procedures prevent gender dysphoric individuals from committing suicide.

The researchers conducted the study by examining anonymous data about patients with emergency hospital visits at 56 healthcare organizations, from 2003-2023, including data on millions of patients.
LOL. That study compares people who received gender-affirming to people who did not. Not to people presenting with gender dysphoria who did not receive it, but to people who did not have GD in the first place.
This retrospective study utilized de-identified patient data from the TriNetX (TriNetX, LLC, Cambridge, MA) database, involving 56 United States healthcare organizations and over 90 million patients. The study involved four cohorts: cohort A, adults aged 18-60 who had gender-affirming surgery and an emergency visit (N = 1,501); cohort B, control group of adults with emergency visits but no gender-affirming surgery (N = 15,608,363); and cohort C, control group of adults with emergency visits, tubal ligation or vasectomy, but no gender-affirming surgery (N = 142,093). Propensity matching was applied to cohorts A and C. Data from February 4, 2003, to February 4, 2023, were analyzed to examine suicide attempts, death, self-harm, and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) within five years of the index event. A secondary analysis involving a control group with pharyngitis, referred to as cohort D, was conducted to validate the results from cohort C.
The conclusion that The Maine Wire draws is not supported by the study at all.

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