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Re: The Wall

Post by In2ition » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:04 pm

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:41 pm
Pelosi and the Congressional Dems seem to have caved and approved a big $4.6 billion immigration and border spending bill that Trump and McConnell wanted. In theory this could provide better aid and conditions for the migrants stuck in cages at the border. But in practice the bill doesn't come with many specifics or constraints on how the money is spent, so likely the administration will just spend it on wall construction and ICE gestapo hiring.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/27/pelosi- ... -bill.html
In theory, but in reality they will just change the newspaper on the bottom of the cages more often. Maybe spray a little Febreze in there every now and then.
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Re: The Wall

Post by Nodack » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:59 pm

The Republican narrative right now is that Dems like open borders and aren’t willing to do anything about immigration. Them approving the bill would take all the wind out of that argument. It’s a chess match.

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Re: The Wall

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:33 am

Nodack wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:59 pm
The Republican narrative right now is that Dems like open borders and aren’t willing to do anything about immigration. Them approving the bill would take all the wind out of that argument. It’s a chess match.
Republicans will still argue that Dems want open borders and lawlessness, even if Dems voted for every single immigration bill. It's the same principle as the fact that they will accuse the Dem nominee of wanting socialism, even if the Dems picked the most moderate candidate on the list.

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Re: The Wall

Post by Nodack » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:24 am

True. Whoever the Dems pick is going to be labeled a Socialist who wants open borders, higher taxes and hates America.

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Re: The Wall

Post by Nodack » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:34 pm

I thought this was interesting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...
In 1835, there was a drastic shift in the Mexican nation. The triumph of conservative forces in the elections unleashed a series of events that culminated on October 23, 1835, under a new constitution, after the repeal of the federalist Constitution of 1824. The new policies, and the increased enforcement of immigration laws and import tariffs, incited many immigrants to revolt.[7] The border region of Mexican Texas was largely populated by immigrants from the United States, some legal but most illegal. These people were accustomed to a federalist government and to extensive individual rights, and they were quite vocal in their displeasure at Mexico's law enforcement and shift towards centralism.[8] Already suspicious after previous American attempts to purchase Mexican Texas,[9] Mexican authorities blamed much of the Texian unrest on American immigrants, most of whom had entered illegally and made little effort to adapt to the Mexican culture

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Re: The Wall

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:38 pm

"Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From"

One of the more racist things he's said, and that's saying a lot.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/14/us/p ... gress.html

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Re: The Wall

Post by Nodack » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:18 pm

I would say the same thing to Trump but Hell doesn’t want him back.

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Re: The Wall

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:48 pm

He doubled down on it today. When asked by interviewers about his tweets, he said, If you don't like this country, you can leave. Oof. He's everybody's racist grandpa but as President.

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Re: The Wall

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:52 pm

I don't remember Trump saying anything about leaving the US when Obama was president and I'm pretty sure he hated him then.
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Re: The Wall

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:53 am

At Trump rally in NC, his supporters chant, "Send her back!" about Ilhan Omar. He soaks in the chant and does nothing to try to stop it or criticize it:



This is some of the most blatantly racist s*** I have ever seen performed en masse. It is shameful and embarrassing. I don't know how anybody can support this clearly bigoted person in the White House any more.

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Re: The Wall

Post by Nodack » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:11 pm

Trump says he disagrees with 'send her back' chant
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... back-chant
President Trump on Thursday disavowed the “send her back” chant that rang throughout his North Carolina rally when he attacked Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), as congressional Republicans sought to distance themselves from the slogan amid widespread backlash.

“I was not happy with it. I disagree with it,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

Asked why he did not stop the chants, Trump responded, “I think I did. I started speaking very quickly.”

The president did not speak up to stop the refrain. After the chants began, he paused for 14 seconds, looked around, neither smiling nor frowning, and waited for the crowd to quiet down before continuing his remarks.

Trump’s attempt to renounce the chant was an acknowledgement of the discomfort of some allies, including Republican lawmakers who said the party could suffer damage if it became a signature slogan of the president’s reelection campaign.



Obviously some Republicans had a talk with Trump about the direction he was heading and convinced him it was a a bad idea so, Trump naturally blamed his supporters for the the whole thing.

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Re: The Wall

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:05 am

And today he un-disagrees with the chant. He calls the crowd "incredible people" and "incredible patriots." Also says of Omar, "She's lucky to be where she is, let me tell you. And the things that she has said are a disgrace to our country."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... k-updates-

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Re: The Wall

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