Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:55 pm
It was more anti-son of Asimov and maybe even anti-Asimov himself than anti-Mueller, I thought. But yes, still a deflection from Covid.
I’d say be careful with comments like this .. the current version of the ‘pubs may have lost the plot but it seems to me the MSM is partly responsible for it, with their fostering of a good guy vs bad guy mentality giving rise to Fox News and harder right, contrarian politics.
I respect your opinion, but I don't think the "woke identity politics" of the left are even remotely as dangerous to the future of the country as the authoritarian tendencies of the modern GOP. And I don't blame the media or the Democrats for the fact that the GOP has become this dangerous. CNN and MSNBC and AOC and Bernie didn't make those loons storm the Capital; they didn't make Trump try to become a dictator. That's on Trump and the GOP. They want to discard American democracy, and somebody being a bit too "woke" doesn't even come close to the danger of that.3rdside wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:43 pmI’d say be careful with comments like this .. the current version of the ‘pubs may have lost the plot but it seems to me the MSM is partly responsible for it, with their fostering of a good guy vs bad guy mentality giving rise to Fox News and harder right, contrarian politics.
For each action there is an equal and opposite reaction and somewhere in and amongst the crazy gop’ers are legitimate, decent, conservatives who are justifiably upset by the excessive liberalism of the Dem’s, left unchecked by the MSM that has now also given rise to the nearly-as-dangerous woke, identity politics perpetuated by the left.
Being a conservative doesn't seem like such a horrible thing to me, but essences can be corrupted.Nodack wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:28 pmwoke
/wōk/
verb
past of wake1.
adjectiveINFORMAL•US
adjective: woke; comparative adjective: woker; superlative adjective: wokest
alert to injustice in society, especially racism.
Being alert to injustices in society doesn’t seem like such a horrible thing to me.
How are todays Liberals practicing excessive Liberalism? An infrastructure bill is excessive? Wanting health care for all Americans is excessive? What is the excessive part? Leaving Afghanistan? Wanting to slow down global warming? Investing in green tech?
Good guys versus bad guys is all MSN? Have you seen FOX News? Dems are the enemy of the people on FOX News. Dems aren’t trying to overturn elections by storming the Capital.
Ah, so you don't mean any and all tests. You are talking about Standardized Tests. I took them all through school (I think I started with the Iowa Tests in the mid-80s) and finished with the SATs in the early 90s. The ones throughout K-12 are not impactful at all. They just forced teachers to teach to the test for a month before we took it. It was a huge waste of time. The SATs are one of the most talked about standardized tests when it comes to inequities in test design. You can do a simple google search and find very reputable studies that show how biased it is.3rdside wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:29 pmhttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ds/596668/
It's a long article, so search the word 'test' and start from the 8th 'test' in the search ..
Weird, my teachers never taught to the test or focused any time on the test at all. They never wasted their time on those.Indy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:34 amAh, so you don't mean any and all tests. You are talking about Standardized Tests. I took them all through school (I think I started with the Iowa Tests in the mid-80s) and finished with the SATs in the early 90s. The ones throughout K-12 are not impactful at all. They just forced teachers to teach to the test for a month before we took it. It was a huge waste of time. The SATs are one of the most talked about standardized tests when it comes to inequities in test design. You can do a simple google search and find very reputable studies that show how biased it is.3rdside wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:29 pmhttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ds/596668/
It's a long article, so search the word 'test' and start from the 8th 'test' in the search ..
which years and which districts? Just curious. I went through the mesa and kyrene districts throughout most of my education. And I specifically remember teachers in early grades saying "this is going to be on the Iowa Test so you need to know it."In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:48 amWeird, my teachers never taught to the test or focused any time on the test at all. They never wasted their time on those.Indy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:34 amAh, so you don't mean any and all tests. You are talking about Standardized Tests. I took them all through school (I think I started with the Iowa Tests in the mid-80s) and finished with the SATs in the early 90s. The ones throughout K-12 are not impactful at all. They just forced teachers to teach to the test for a month before we took it. It was a huge waste of time. The SATs are one of the most talked about standardized tests when it comes to inequities in test design. You can do a simple google search and find very reputable studies that show how biased it is.3rdside wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:29 pmhttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ds/596668/
It's a long article, so search the word 'test' and start from the 8th 'test' in the search ..
I went to a very small Catholic school in rural North Dakota '80-'88. We never focused on the Iowa Basics tests. We only set time aside to take the tests every yr.Indy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:19 amwhich years and which districts? Just curious. I went through the mesa and kyrene districts throughout most of my education. And I specifically remember teachers in early grades saying "this is going to be on the Iowa Test so you need to know it."In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:48 amWeird, my teachers never taught to the test or focused any time on the test at all. They never wasted their time on those.Indy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:34 amAh, so you don't mean any and all tests. You are talking about Standardized Tests. I took them all through school (I think I started with the Iowa Tests in the mid-80s) and finished with the SATs in the early 90s. The ones throughout K-12 are not impactful at all. They just forced teachers to teach to the test for a month before we took it. It was a huge waste of time. The SATs are one of the most talked about standardized tests when it comes to inequities in test design. You can do a simple google search and find very reputable studies that show how biased it is.3rdside wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:29 pmhttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ds/596668/
It's a long article, so search the word 'test' and start from the 8th 'test' in the search ..
If it's just the standardised tests then I can agree that it's biased, but it sounds to me there were no tests at all if they did away with these?:Indy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:34 amAh, so you don't mean any and all tests. You are talking about Standardized Tests. I took them all through school (I think I started with the Iowa Tests in the mid-80s) and finished with the SATs in the early 90s. The ones throughout K-12 are not impactful at all. They just forced teachers to teach to the test for a month before we took it. It was a huge waste of time. The SATs are one of the most talked about standardized tests when it comes to inequities in test design. You can do a simple google search and find very reputable studies that show how biased it is.3rdside wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:29 pmhttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ds/596668/
It's a long article, so search the word 'test' and start from the 8th 'test' in the search ..