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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Nodack » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:26 pm

Wasn’t he the disease expert for the past five Presidents?

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Post by Indy » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:51 pm

Nodack wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:26 pm
Wasn’t he the disease expert for the past five Presidents?
He has been working for the government as an immunologist since 1984. So yeah, Ronnie, Bush, Clinton, Bushy, Obama, and now Trump. So 6 presidents.

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Post by ShelC » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:59 pm

And he did his job advising those Presidents with no issue and no one knew or cared about him until Trump trotted him out for his reality TV press conferences to get his ratings. Now half the country thinks he's the enemy because Trump didn't listen to him.

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Post by ShelC » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:34 pm

Took him 4 months...let's see if the "anti-maskers" keep up their nonsense.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-wears- ... 35485.html

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Nodack » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:58 pm

He looks pissed that they took his picture with it on.

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Mori Chu » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:39 am

It's an amazing picture, in that (a) it's absolutely the right thing for him to do, and it's good that he's wearing it; (b) he clearly doesn't want to wear it and is doing so angrily and begrudgingly; (c) all his followers who have said for months that masks were stupid and unnecessary will now immediately flip and say they always did support masks; (d) Trump buckling and wearing a mask is one of his biggest admissions so far that his "plan" of completely ignoring COVID-19 and acting like everything is just fine has been an abject disaster. Even he cannot deny the seriousness of the pandemic any more.

I really think that COVID is going to be the ultimate undoing of Trump's presidency. He has done such a singularly bad job handling it, and all signs are that the US will be in very bad shape in November. I think the voters are going to kick the guy out unless there is some kind of miraculous turnaround. He has just completely failed to do anything whatsoever to stop this horrible catastrophe that has killed 137,000 Americans and counting. Unconscionable.

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Post by Superbone » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:55 pm

Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:39 am
It's an amazing picture, in that (a) it's absolutely the right thing for him to do, and it's good that he's wearing it; (b) he clearly doesn't want to wear it and is doing so angrily and begrudgingly; (c) all his followers who have said for months that masks were stupid and unnecessary will now immediately flip and say they always did support masks; (d) Trump buckling and wearing a mask is one of his biggest admissions so far that his "plan" of completely ignoring COVID-19 and acting like everything is just fine has been an abject disaster. Even he cannot deny the seriousness of the pandemic any more.

I really think that COVID is going to be the ultimate undoing of Trump's presidency. He has done such a singularly bad job handling it, and all signs are that the US will be in very bad shape in November. I think the voters are going to kick the guy out unless there is some kind of miraculous turnaround. He has just completely failed to do anything whatsoever to stop this horrible catastrophe that has killed 137,000 Americans and counting. Unconscionable.
Sorry, there's no recovery for him.
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Post by Indy » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:04 pm

ShelC wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:59 pm
And he did his job advising those Presidents with no issue and no one knew or cared about him until Trump trotted him out for his reality TV press conferences to get his ratings. Now half the country thinks he's the enemy because Trump didn't listen to him.
Only thing I have seen on him was daddy Bush calling him out as an amazing servant in the federal government that we should all appreciate. I think it was late 80s or early 90s.

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Nodack » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:13 pm

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/p ... virus.html
Hospitals have been ordered to bypass the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and send all patient information to a central database in Washington, raising questions about transparency.


Trump administration tells hospitals to bypass CDC with COVID-19 data reporting
https://fox6now.com/2020/07/14/trump-ad ... reporting/
The move has drawn criticism from some public health experts, who say the White House has been politicizing science and sidelining the CDC in its response to the pandemic.

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Post by Indy » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:03 am

Nodack wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:13 pm
Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/p ... virus.html
Hospitals have been ordered to bypass the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and send all patient information to a central database in Washington, raising questions about transparency.


Trump administration tells hospitals to bypass CDC with COVID-19 data reporting
https://fox6now.com/2020/07/14/trump-ad ... reporting/
The move has drawn criticism from some public health experts, who say the White House has been politicizing science and sidelining the CDC in its response to the pandemic.
The US is becoming China and Russia.

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Mori Chu » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:36 am

The facts are not on their side, so they are trying to take control of facts themselves, or the dissemination thereof. My GOP friends are cheering this news because they think the CDC is biased and cooking the numbers to make Trump look bad (?).

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Post by Indy » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:47 am

Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:36 am
The facts are not on their side, so they are trying to take control of facts themselves, or the dissemination thereof. My GOP friends are cheering this news because they think the CDC is biased and cooking the numbers to make Trump look bad (?).
Well I am sure a 'balanced and fair' new source was telling them that.

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Nodack » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:55 am

FBI -“Russia’s goal is to erode American confidence in democratic institutions.”

Trump - “Don’t trust what our intelligence community says!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what the FBI says!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what the doctors say!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what the IRS says!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what the media says!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what whistleblowers say!”
Trump - “Don’r trust what the CDC says!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what those 65 women who said I sexually assaulted them said!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what the WHO says!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what Inspector Generals say!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what any of the witnesses said!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what the UN says!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what the Supreme Court says!”
Trump - “Don’t trust what Fauci says!”

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by ShelC » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:05 am

Wait until November when it becomes, "Don't trust what the election results say!"

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Nodack » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:09 am

Wait until November when America says GTFO Trump!

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Nodack » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:25 am

:D
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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Nodack » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:33 am

Why Arizona Wasn’t Ready for Its Coronavirus Surge
State leaders didn’t prepare when cases were low and are now struggling to cope; ‘Everyone needed to do more’
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-arizon ... 1594805400
A full-throttle reopening in May that drew crowds to bars and restaurants, a failure to increase testing and a lack of contact tracing have fueled an avoidable crisis, they said. Now, 26.46% of tests in the past seven days have come back positive, the highest rate in the nation, according to Johns Hopkins University data. And some 3,000 people are hospitalized with Covid-19 daily, compared to 789 two months ago, when the state first reopened.

In Maricopa County, home to Phoenix and the third highest number of cases in the country, officials said the virus is so widespread that contact tracing is no longer effective.


Fauci: ‘Bizarre’ White House Behavior Only Hurts the President
The nation’s top public-health expert tells The Atlantic that he isn’t going anywhere, despite the Trump administration’s newest attempts to undercut him.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... po/614224/

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Superbone » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:42 am

Nodack wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:09 am
Wait until November when America says GTFO Trump!
I'm going to party like there's no tomorrow. Or leave the country.
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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Indy » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:05 pm

Nodack wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:33 am
Why Arizona Wasn’t Ready for Its Coronavirus Surge
State leaders didn’t prepare when cases were low and are now struggling to cope; ‘Everyone needed to do more’
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-arizon ... 1594805400
A full-throttle reopening in May that drew crowds to bars and restaurants, a failure to increase testing and a lack of contact tracing have fueled an avoidable crisis, they said. Now, 26.46% of tests in the past seven days have come back positive, the highest rate in the nation, according to Johns Hopkins University data. And some 3,000 people are hospitalized with Covid-19 daily, compared to 789 two months ago, when the state first reopened.

In Maricopa County, home to Phoenix and the third highest number of cases in the country, officials said the virus is so widespread that contact tracing is no longer effective.


Fauci: ‘Bizarre’ White House Behavior Only Hurts the President
The nation’s top public-health expert tells The Atlantic that he isn’t going anywhere, despite the Trump administration’s newest attempts to undercut him.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... po/614224/
Ducey is worthless as a leader. He completely wasted the time people in AZ gave him by quarantining. Instead he spent it trying to get Trump to notice him.

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Re: Coronavirus

Post by Mori Chu » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:10 pm

The possible scenario I keep hearing about is roughly the following: Trump spends lots of time between now and Nov talking about voter fraud and how vote-by-mail is evil and prone to tampering. Then we do the real election and lots of Dems vote by mail. By the end of election night, the mail votes haven't been counted. Without the mail votes, maybe Trump squeaks ahead. He insists that states call the election and certify the result. States with GOP House majority do so and submit their electoral college votes. The mail votes that would tip the election blue never get counted.

Is it possible? Can state legislatures do such a thing?

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