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Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:20 pm
by Mori Chu
Kevin McCarthy takes a shot at Matt Gaetz.


Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:24 pm
by Nodack
Ouch!

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:31 pm
by Superbone
The gloves have been dropped! It is no secret that Gaetz is a creep.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:42 pm
by Nodack
And after all that bootlicking McCarthy did for Trump, that weasel Gaetz ends up taking him out. I think Marjorie has taken over the mantle of most extreme of her party.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:25 pm
by In2ition
He was supposed to hold the line and McCarthy kept cupitulating to the Dems. Nancy Pelosi would never do that.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:42 pm
by Nodack
You mean compromise? Get something done?

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:50 pm
by In2ition
It wasn't a compromise, it was a total surrender of what the Reps wanted to stand for and what he promised he would do.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:14 pm
by Nodack
What were they standing for?

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:12 am
by Mori Chu
Compromise is good. The two parties *should* work together. This attitude that nobody should ever bend toward the other party, and doing so is a horrible failure and a loss, is recent and harmful.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:00 am
by In2ition
I'm not against compromise at all. It just seems like a one way street when both parties feel the other one is so far away from each other. When that happens, you have reasonable bills that get spoiled by a poison pill being inserted. Then when you are forced to vote against a poison pill, you are framed as the bad guy, that wouldn't vote for a reasonable bill, even though they fully know it wasn't anything of the sort w/ the pork added.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:14 am
by Nodack
There is no denying that todays Congress gets absolutely nothing done on purpose.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:04 am
by In2ition
Could you imagine getting paid for gigs, and not actually playing?

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:43 am
by Nodack
Every once in awhile that happens because of weather or a double booking.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:16 pm
by In2ition
But not regularly, right? I mean I've seen you actually play.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:21 pm
by Nodack
Getting paid to stay home doesn’t happen much. Gigs cancel fairly often, usually way ahead of time for various reasons. A Wedding and the couple break up before the wedding. A birthday party and the birthday person dies before their party.

What Congress is doing is like me going to the gig, setting up and then standing there on stage refusing to play.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:23 pm
by In2ition
Agreed

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:23 am
by Mori Chu
Another bugaboo of mine is, I don't think the chambers of Congress should be able to just stuff a bill in the filing cabinet without putting it to a vote. Forcing congress critters to actually vote on things and put themselves on record is important for accountability. And there have been several examples of popular bills that would probably pass, but some a-hole speaker of the house / senate majority leader just won't let it go up for a vote. It's a full "veto" by one man that I don't think the founders intended.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:57 am
by In2ition
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but playing devil's advocate, what if it's a ridiculous bill by someone? We could come up with some creative ridiculous bills as examples.

Here I made one up:
Lauren Boebert puts forth a bill to outlaw home pools, unless they have a lifeguard on duty, because most drownings happen in home pools. You know if you save at least one life, it was worth it.

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:57 am
by Split T
In2ition wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:57 am
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but playing devil's advocate, what if it's a ridiculous bill by someone? We could come up with some creative ridiculous bills as examples.

Here I made one up:
Lauren Boebert puts forth a bill to outlaw home pools, unless they have a lifeguard on duty, because most drownings happen in home pools. You know if you save at least one life, it was worth it.
Let it come forth and be voted down

Re: The GOP / RNC

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:20 am
by Mori Chu
So I guess they're going to put forward a motion to oust Speaker Johnson? "They" being Marjorie Taylor Greene and some others.