2020 Election Thread

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Nodack wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:31 pm
This is F'n crazy. I would never approve of this type of behavior in any way.

Trump does. He started it and loves it. He told them to come today and hold a “Wild Protest” and they did. He held a rally rhis morning to fire them all up. This isn’t going to end well. They won’t allow Trump supporters to hold the Capital very long. One person has been shot so far. I saw a woman being rolled out on a gurney who was bleeding from the neck area. Once nightfall happens violence starts.
I don't think that Trump condones violence. I don't think he ever has. I do think that they need to round up these protestors who did this, arrest and prosecute them.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm


He's literally holding a Qanon sign.
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:44 pm
Nodack wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:31 pm
This is F'n crazy. I would never approve of this type of behavior in any way.

Trump does. He started it and loves it. He told them to come today and hold a “Wild Protest” and they did. He held a rally rhis morning to fire them all up. This isn’t going to end well. They won’t allow Trump supporters to hold the Capital very long. One person has been shot so far. I saw a woman being rolled out on a gurney who was bleeding from the neck area. Once nightfall happens violence starts.
I don't think that Trump condones violence. I don't think he ever has. I do think that they need to round up these protestors who did this, arrest and prosecute them.
but not the people that incited the violence...smh

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Re: 2020 Election Thread

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AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:43 pm


That guy with the fucking horns is a Trump supporter that went to BLM protests as a counter protestor. Are you fucking kidding me In2ition right now?! Are you really trying to claim these are antifa and BLM protestors parading as Trump supporters?
He was not a counter protestor. Antifa was calling for this prior, to infiltrate, dress up as Trump supporters. I saw stuff about this earlier this week, and then they bussed in Antifa with police escort yesterday I think.

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AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:43 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:34 pm
If Trump had won and these were BLM people trying to bust into the Capitol, they would have been shot and gassed and beat.






That guy with the fucking horns is a Trump supporter that went to BLM protests as a counter protestor. Are you fucking kidding me In2ition right now?! Are you really trying to claim these are antifa and BLM protestors parading as Trump supporters?
MAGA types were livestreaming it on twitch. Well known right wingers have posted tons of pictures of themselves in the act all over social media.

But I have a feeling you weren't really asking for evidence when you posted that...

If a group of nuns, monks, and Mister Rogers look-a-likes brandished guns, illegally entered Capitol Hill, and interrupted American government's attempt to certify an election, I believe I would feel identically about it.

Seriously, Trump needs to be tried for sedition and found guilty.

If these weren't all white people they'd be dead.
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What reality do you live in?
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:48 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:43 pm


That guy with the fucking horns is a Trump supporter that went to BLM protests as a counter protestor. Are you fucking kidding me In2ition right now?! Are you really trying to claim these are antifa and BLM protestors parading as Trump supporters?
He was not a counter protestor. Antifa was calling for this prior, to infiltrate, dress up as Trump supporters. I saw stuff about this earlier this week, and then they bussed in Antifa with police escort yesterday I think.
Of course you'd buy into such bullshit conspiracies. Did you get your information from Qanon or Parler?
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:51 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:48 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:43 pm


That guy with the fucking horns is a Trump supporter that went to BLM protests as a counter protestor. Are you fucking kidding me In2ition right now?! Are you really trying to claim these are antifa and BLM protestors parading as Trump supporters?
He was not a counter protestor. Antifa was calling for this prior, to infiltrate, dress up as Trump supporters. I saw stuff about this earlier this week, and then they bussed in Antifa with police escort yesterday I think.
Of course you'd buy into such bullshit conspiracies. Did you get your information from Qanon or Parler?
Stop, take a breath. There is no need to attack me. I did not get that from Qanon or Parler, I do not read either of these, so take your ad hominen attacks somewhere else. I'm not the enemy guys. I'm just offering another side of the story. I'm not your punching bag either. Chill.
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The problem is "that side" is the source of this bullshit that's happening today. Why can't you recognize that?
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:51 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:48 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:43 pm


That guy with the fucking horns is a Trump supporter that went to BLM protests as a counter protestor. Are you fucking kidding me In2ition right now?! Are you really trying to claim these are antifa and BLM protestors parading as Trump supporters?
He was not a counter protestor. Antifa was calling for this prior, to infiltrate, dress up as Trump supporters. I saw stuff about this earlier this week, and then they bussed in Antifa with police escort yesterday I think.
Of course you'd buy into such bullshit conspiracies. Did you get your information from Qanon or Parler?
Stop, take a breath. There is no need to attack me. I did not get that from Qanon or Parler, I do not read either of these, so take your ad hominen attacks somewhere else. I'm not the enemy guys. I'm just offering another side of the story. I'm not your punching bag either. Chill.
I'm not mad at you specifically. I'm just bothered by the fact that you are buying into such bullshit from the "other side of the story". Ted Cruz, Trump and all of these folks in office are the cause of all of this going on right now. They are perpetuating this anarchy. To stand behind Trump and these folks in the GOP that have made our election system such a sideshow since the results and today is absurd man. You've constantly thrown out the same garbage narrative Trump and Giuliani have spewed regarding voter fraud. I have a big issue with that because it is garbage. I don't understand how you can still believe Trump doesn't incite violence and still believe this narrative that he won the election and is a victim of fraud.
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm
The problem is "that side" is the source of this bullshit that's happening today. Why can't you recognize that?
Are you sure of that? Have you gone and interviewed each of these dumbshits that did it, broke in, stole things and terrorized the people inside? Best to hold off complete judgement until the truth does come out. I'm offering photographic proof that both it was planned and that these jokers were/are Antifa, but what the F do I know? I don't know for sure. I'm as baffled by all of this as you all are.
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:04 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm
The problem is "that side" is the source of this bullshit that's happening today. Why can't you recognize that?
Are you sure of that? Have you gone and interviewed each of these dumbshits that did it, broke in, stole things and terrorized the people inside? Best to hold off complete judgement until the truth does come out. I'm offering photographic proof that both it was planned and that these jokers were/are Antifa, but what the F do I know? I don't know for sure. I'm as baffled by all of this as you all are.
I'm talking about the politicians. They are the source.

These people are just morons and losers who believe in Qanon bullshit.
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:04 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm
The problem is "that side" is the source of this bullshit that's happening today. Why can't you recognize that?
Are you sure of that? Have you gone and interviewed each of these dumbshits that did it, broke in, stole things and terrorized the people inside? Best to hold off complete judgement until the truth does come out. I'm offering photographic proof that both it was planned and that these jokers were/are Antifa, but what the F do I know? I don't know for sure. I'm as baffled by all of this as you all are.
Photographic proof? A few Tweets? The one you shared with those Antifa folks or BLM folks aren't either. That Redneck Braveheart dude has been at numerous pro Trump rallies! He was here in AZ. He's been in other states. How TF do you believe he's Antifa or BLM?

You are so quick to believe that Trump supporters and pro Trump GOP folks are looking out for Americans and can't do any wrong.
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:02 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm


Stop, take a breath. There is no need to attack me. I did not get that from Qanon or Parler, I do not read either of these, so take your ad hominen attacks somewhere else. I'm not the enemy guys. I'm just offering another side of the story. I'm not your punching bag either. Chill.
I'm not mad at you specifically. I'm just bothered by the fact that you are buying into such bullshit from the "other side of the story". Ted Cruz, Trump and all of these folks in office are the cause of all of this going on right now. They are perpetuating this anarchy. To stand behind Trump and these folks in the GOP that have made our election system such a sideshow since the results and today is absurd man. You've constantly thrown out the same garbage narrative Trump and Giuliani have spewed regarding voter fraud. I have a big issue with that because it is garbage. I don't understand how you can still believe Trump doesn't incite violence and still believe this narrative that he won the election and is a victim of fraud.
No one that I know was calling for anarchy or violence. That's never been the MO of Trump supporters. They weren't going around and burning down cities as far as I know. Maybe you have some other evidence that they were over and over.

As far as the election goes, there is an enormous amount of evidence that huge amounts of fraud happened. You can't say it's garbage out of hand if you aren't even looking at it. There are a lot of people much smarter than myself that believe they have evidence, proof and 100% believe it. I have a lot of questions about it.
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There is no way you can honestly fall for that In2. You really think an organization that is Anti-Fascists would describe people dressed in MAGA/Trump gear as "patriots" instead of "fascists?" Come on, that email is so fake.

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AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:07 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:04 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm
The problem is "that side" is the source of this bullshit that's happening today. Why can't you recognize that?
Are you sure of that? Have you gone and interviewed each of these dumbshits that did it, broke in, stole things and terrorized the people inside? Best to hold off complete judgement until the truth does come out. I'm offering photographic proof that both it was planned and that these jokers were/are Antifa, but what the F do I know? I don't know for sure. I'm as baffled by all of this as you all are.
Photographic proof? A few Tweets? The one you shared with those Antifa folks or BLM folks aren't either. That Redneck Braveheart dude has been at numerous pro Trump rallies! He was here in AZ. He's been in other states. How TF do you believe he's Antifa or BLM?

You are so quick to believe that Trump supporters and pro Trump GOP folks are looking out for Americans and can't do any wrong.
You're right, they should grab his ass and lock him up. I shouldn't just assume that they are antifa. It's just not the MO of Trump supporters. They think of themselves as law abiding people. Obviously, I can't speak for every single person in any group, that would be insane.
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:11 pm
There are a lot of people much smarter than myself that believe they have evidence, proof and 100% believe it. I have a lot of questions about it.
Believing you have evidence is not the same as actually having it.

We're still all waiting on that evidence to be documented and confirmed in a court of law.

It's not going to happen because it's not really evidence. It's bullshit.
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In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:11 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:02 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm


Stop, take a breath. There is no need to attack me. I did not get that from Qanon or Parler, I do not read either of these, so take your ad hominen attacks somewhere else. I'm not the enemy guys. I'm just offering another side of the story. I'm not your punching bag either. Chill.
I'm not mad at you specifically. I'm just bothered by the fact that you are buying into such bullshit from the "other side of the story". Ted Cruz, Trump and all of these folks in office are the cause of all of this going on right now. They are perpetuating this anarchy. To stand behind Trump and these folks in the GOP that have made our election system such a sideshow since the results and today is absurd man. You've constantly thrown out the same garbage narrative Trump and Giuliani have spewed regarding voter fraud. I have a big issue with that because it is garbage. I don't understand how you can still believe Trump doesn't incite violence and still believe this narrative that he won the election and is a victim of fraud.
No one that I know was calling for anarchy or violence. That's never been the MO of Trump supporters. They weren't going around and burning down cities as far as I know. Maybe you have some other evidence that they were over and over.

As far as the election goes, there is an enormous amount of evidence that huge amounts of fraud happened. You can't say it's garbage out of hand if you aren't even looking at it. There are a lot of people much smarter than myself that believe they have evidence, proof and 100% believe it. I have a lot of questions about it.
That is no true. Proud Boys absolutely support and advocate violence. It is kind of their thing. Trump junior just said today he is going to show up in your back yard with lots of people if you don't support him. Rudy called for a trial by combat just this morning.

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In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:11 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:02 pm
In2ition wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm


Stop, take a breath. There is no need to attack me. I did not get that from Qanon or Parler, I do not read either of these, so take your ad hominen attacks somewhere else. I'm not the enemy guys. I'm just offering another side of the story. I'm not your punching bag either. Chill.
I'm not mad at you specifically. I'm just bothered by the fact that you are buying into such bullshit from the "other side of the story". Ted Cruz, Trump and all of these folks in office are the cause of all of this going on right now. They are perpetuating this anarchy. To stand behind Trump and these folks in the GOP that have made our election system such a sideshow since the results and today is absurd man. You've constantly thrown out the same garbage narrative Trump and Giuliani have spewed regarding voter fraud. I have a big issue with that because it is garbage. I don't understand how you can still believe Trump doesn't incite violence and still believe this narrative that he won the election and is a victim of fraud.
No one that I know was calling for anarchy or violence. That's never been the MO of Trump supporters. They weren't going around and burning down cities as far as I know. Maybe you have some other evidence that they were over and over.

As far as the election goes, there is an enormous amount of evidence that huge amounts of fraud happened. You can't say it's garbage out of hand if you aren't even looking at it. There are a lot of people much smarter than myself that believe they have evidence, proof and 100% believe it. I have a lot of questions about it.
And yet, the Conservative majority Supreme Court shot it down, as did every single court that was presented a case. They all must be in on something and aren't looking at things presented to them. We've already had this debate with people on these very boards far more intelligent when it comes to law and they've chimed in that the evidence clearly is lacking. So I'm not sure why you keep returning to "there's evidence and you aren't looking at it" when people far smarter than any of us and far smarter than those that believe they have evidence are shooting it down in the legal system.
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Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:13 pm
There is no way you can honestly fall for that In2. You really think an organization that is Anti-Fascists would describe people dressed in MAGA/Trump gear as "patriots" instead of "fascists?" Come on, that email is so fake.
Indy, do you really have that type of belief in Antifa, that they are all good and all altruistic? That seems like nonsense with everything that they've been a part of the past 5 yrs.
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