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In2ition wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:58 am

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:54 am

Whether Trump "cheated in an election" is debatable, but, he has clearly committed election-related crimes. For example, turn on the TV today. Any real news network is covering how he is beginning his hearing for the hush money case. Trump paid a porn star and other women to hush them up about affairs that might have caused him to lose the 2016 election, then covered up the payments. His co-conspirator Michael Cohen went to prison for it already. Trump may still be convicted of a felony for it.

He also incited an insurrection and attempted to overthrow the result of the 2020 election he lost, including a mob that was actively trying to kill many of his political opponents. But they did not succeed, so no biggie I guess?

Oh boy, the hyperbole is out of control. "kill many of his political opponents", this is rich.

I guess you think that “Hang Mike Pence” was just shouted in good-natured fun?

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:38 am

In2ition wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:58 am

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:54 am

Whether Trump "cheated in an election" is debatable, but, he has clearly committed election-related crimes. For example, turn on the TV today. Any real news network is covering how he is beginning his hearing for the hush money case. Trump paid a porn star and other women to hush them up about affairs that might have caused him to lose the 2016 election, then covered up the payments. His co-conspirator Michael Cohen went to prison for it already. Trump may still be convicted of a felony for it.

He also incited an insurrection and attempted to overthrow the result of the 2020 election he lost, including a mob that was actively trying to kill many of his political opponents. But they did not succeed, so no biggie I guess?

Oh boy, the hyperbole is out of control. "kill many of his political opponents", this is rich.

I guess you think that “Hang Mike Pence” was just shouted in good-natured fun?

A couple idiots chanting with a fake gallows that couldn't hang a cat, is not "a mob that was actively trying to kill many of his political opponents".

Trump tried to dismantle the Postal Service before the election once it was established that Dems were going to vote by mail. Trump told his followers to stand in line outside during Covid instead. They were caught and forced to stand down before they could dismantle any more mail sorting machines. That’s him trying to cheat.

The Ukraine extortion scheme that got him impeached. That’s him trying to cheat.

Find me more votes! That’s cheating.

Fake elector scheme? Cheating.

Trump making up false claims of victory based on zero evidence is what?

They had zip lines and other equipment, some of them had guns and other weapons, they were chanting "Hang Mike Pence," they were actively looking for Pelosi and AOC among others. I don't think it is any exaggeration to say that several of our elected leaders had reason to believe that their lives were in great danger.

I totally get why you feel that way. We were inundated with rage coverage to push that 24/7.

I feel that way because it is true.

If Biden loses and calls for his people to fight like hell and have a trial by combat on the day of Trumps certification and thousands of Dems storm the Capital what do think the coverage would be on FOX? That MAGA was dressed up like Dems and they did it? Not a chance. Would you ignore the fake elector scheme by Biden and the hang Kamala Harris chants by the Dems? They say Trump cheated and stole the election and that the whole thing was a fraud orchestrated by Trump. Is it true or did Trump win? Even after multiple recounts the Dems still won’t let up on their fraud claims and files dozens of court filings. Biden calls the AZ Secretary of State and demands the 10,000 votes he needs to win to be changed to his side because Trump cheated.

Who are you going to believe of that happened? Would you be sympathetic to their cause? Biden is positive Trump cheated.

More violent rhetoric from Trump.

Lol, he posted a video of trucks with Trump flags and graphics. One had a graphic of Biden tied up on it's tail gate. Give me a break. It doesn't foment violence, it's just ridiculous. That's a leap.

Ya, it was a post about brotherly love. Trump can’t be expected to control what pictures he posts on his own web site. It was a picture of a Trump supporter helping Biden with a ride. He was bound to keep him from moving around too much while riding in the bed for safety reasons.

I’m sure there is a Dem truck driving around with a mural of Hillary Clinton stabbing Trump 100 X’s with blood oozing everywhere. It would be the same thing. It’s just a picture. Biden could post that on X too. Nothing wrong with a post by the President of the US depicting his rival being murdered.

In2ition wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:59 pm

Lol, he posted a video of trucks with Trump flags and graphics. One had a graphic of Biden tied up on it's tail gate. Give me a break. It doesn't foment violence, it's just ridiculous. That's a leap.

This is what denial looks like.

TOO wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:46 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:59 pm

Lol, he posted a video of trucks with Trump flags and graphics. One had a graphic of Biden tied up on it's tail gate. Give me a break. It doesn't foment violence, it's just ridiculous. That's a leap.

This is what denial looks like.

I’m waiting for the “it was antifa” spin.

Kryptonic wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:56 pm

TOO wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:46 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:59 pm

Lol, he posted a video of trucks with Trump flags and graphics. One had a graphic of Biden tied up on it's tail gate. Give me a break. It doesn't foment violence, it's just ridiculous. That's a leap.

This is what denial looks like.

I’m waiting for the “it was antifa” spin.

It's ridiculous, pathetic and sad attempt.

Wow. We’ve lost In2.

All I can say In2 is, if somebody posted photos and videos of somebody you really love, a wife or child or parent or something, and they were bound and gagged and implied that they were meant to be harmed, you would not be super happy about it. Especially if that person had a megaphone so loud that millions of people listened to it every day.

But hey, I guess Trump was just joking around. Like that other time, and the other time, and the other time. He likes to troll and joke. Funny guy!

But if some liberal commentator on cnn says wet works, it absolutely can only be taken literally and means Biden wants to assassinate Trump

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:40 am

All I can say In2 is, if somebody posted photos and videos of somebody you really love, a wife or child or parent or something, and they were bound and gagged and implied that they were meant to be harmed, you would not be super happy about it. Especially if that person had a megaphone so loud that millions of people listened to it every day.

But hey, I guess Trump was just joking around. Like that other time, and the other time, and the other time. He likes to troll and joke. Funny guy!

We're not talking about someone personal to us, we're talking about a public figure. Everyday people of the public are allowed to criticize public figures. If someone thought it was more than that then they aren't a serious person and their opinions aren't serious. If that was my family members, then it would be rightfully considered a threat, because my family members aren't public figures. Do you understand the difference?

Split T wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:55 am

But if some liberal commentator on cnn says wet works, it absolutely can only be taken literally and means Biden wants to assassinate Trump

Wet works is something totally different. It's referring to special forces or agency type assassination plots and operations. Those are people and organizations with the means and resources to make those things happen. Am I wrong?

In2ition wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:17 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:55 am

But if some liberal commentator on cnn says wet works, it absolutely can only be taken literally and means Biden wants to assassinate Trump

Wet works is something totally different. It's referring to special forces or agency type assassination plots and operations. Those are people and organizations with the means and resources to make those things happen. Am I wrong?

It’s not about what it actually is…it’s about what you take seriously and what you write off as a harmless joke. If Trump or a conservative says it, it’s a harmless joke.