Re: The Democrats
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:09 pm
If you say so.
Go ahead and prove me wrong.
Apparently, I have to quote you so you absolutely understand that I am responding to you. I was talking to Mori, not you Nodack.Nodack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:47 amAnd many Americans liked Hitler and wanted us to emulate their style of government of fascism. Not just Cons. 24 US Senators were on his payroll doing Hitlers biding. Some of them didn’t even realized it. All of them anti-semantic. There was coup plans laid, military weapons stolen, weapons plants were destroyed by bombs planted. Japan attacking us quelled those plans.
Trump appearing to be pro Putin over and over and over is troubling. Trump kissing up to fascist dictators and heaping praise on them is troubling. No US President in history would do that until Trump. Fascist good. European Democracies bad. Not going to help them if attacked. Go ahead Putin do whatever you want we won’t intervene. If I’m alected we won’t give Ukraine a dime.
I don’t see Biden praising dictators. I don’t see Biden refusing to abide by elections results he doesn’t like and making up lies all over the place to justify his fascist tendencies. I see Biden unifying our allies against Putin and other dictators Trump loves. I don’t see Biden attacking all our US institutions like Trump does all day every day.
Keep getting all those messages from the GOP calling themselves Patriots. The people on Hitlers payroll in the US all called themselves Patriots too.
Let's not get that far yet, because we need to agree on some definitions first. Also, you avoided answering my questions.
Apparently, I have to quote you so you absolutely understand that I am responding to you. I was talking to Mori, not you Nodack.Nodack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:47 amAnd many Americans liked Hitler and wanted us to emulate their style of government of fascism. Not just Cons. 24 US Senators were on his payroll doing Hitlers biding. Some of them didn’t even realized it. All of them anti-semantic. There was coup plans laid, military weapons stolen, weapons plants were destroyed by bombs planted. Japan attacking us quelled those plans.
Trump appearing to be pro Putin over and over and over is troubling. Trump kissing up to fascist dictators and heaping praise on them is troubling. No US President in history would do that until Trump. Fascist good. European Democracies bad. Not going to help them if attacked. Go ahead Putin do whatever you want we won’t intervene. If I’m alected we won’t give Ukraine a dime.
I don’t see Biden praising dictators. I don’t see Biden refusing to abide by elections results he doesn’t like and making up lies all over the place to justify his fascist tendencies. I see Biden unifying our allies against Putin and other dictators Trump loves. I don’t see Biden attacking all our US institutions like Trump does all day every day.
Keep getting all those messages from the GOP calling themselves Patriots. The people on Hitlers payroll in the US all called themselves Patriots too.
I thought I answered that question pretty well.Where do get these fascist tactics in history and what are examples of those things that were done? Myself, I would use Nazi Germany and what they did for guidance on my examples.
So you think praising "dictators" is a fascist thing you associate with Hitler?
I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.What did the government do to it's people that was representative of them?
I think Trump has praised Hitler. Trump praises Putin all the time. Trump praises the authoritarian Viktor Orbán all the time.So you think praising "dictators" is a fascist thing you associate with Hitler?
FDR praised Hitler and Mussolini before they went to try World domination. That didn't mean FDR was fascist.Nodack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:53 pmI have no idea what you’re trying to say here.What did the government do to it's people that was representative of them?
I think Trump has praised Hitler. Trump praises Putin all the time. Trump praises the authoritarian Viktor Orbán all the time.So you think praising "dictators" is a fascist thing you associate with Hitler?
I don’t see Biden doing that. He hangs out with democratic leaders and praises Democracy unlike Trump who clearly hates it.
1. Trump calls brown people crossing the border Vermin and poisoning the blood of America. “I don’t know if you call them people,” he said at a rally near Dayton, Ohio. “In some cases they’re not people, in my opinion. But I’m not allowed to say that because the radical left says that’s a terrible thing to say.” “Jews who vote for Democrats are “very disloyal to Israel. Jews who vote for Democrats “hate Israel” and hate “their religion,”In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:05 amWhen I went to school(a long time ago) and learned about the Nazis and what they did, these were some of the things that I associated with them and fascism:
1. They blamed a certain segment of the country for their problems, and then ostercized them by making them wear a star on their clothes.
2. They created a propoganda system, owning every media outlet to spread lies.
3. They called them unclean and dirty, and blamed them for their health epidemics, essentially slowly turning people against them and dehumanizing them.
4. They took away the guns from the Jews.
5. They recruited their youth to be their brownshirts, to even turn against their families and turn them in.
6. They started burning books.
7. They censored speech of those that spoke up against them.
8. They started raiding homes without warrants and confascating property.
9. They started rounding up the Jews and their supporters to put them into concentration camps.
10. They started experimenting on those in the concentration camps without voluntary consent, and killed many due to these experiments.
Can we agree that the items I listed could be a characterisation of fascism? We can debate each point if you like, but we should at least agree on the definitions first.Nodack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:45 pm1. Trump calls brown people crossing the border Vermin and poisoning the blood of America. “I don’t know if you call them people,” he said at a rally near Dayton, Ohio. “In some cases they’re not people, in my opinion. But I’m not allowed to say that because the radical left says that’s a terrible thing to say.” “Jews who vote for Democrats are “very disloyal to Israel. Jews who vote for Democrats “hate Israel” and hate “their religion,”In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:05 amWhen I went to school(a long time ago) and learned about the Nazis and what they did, these were some of the things that I associated with them and fascism:
1. They blamed a certain segment of the country for their problems, and then ostercized them by making them wear a star on their clothes.
2. They created a propoganda system, owning every media outlet to spread lies.
3. They called them unclean and dirty, and blamed them for their health epidemics, essentially slowly turning people against them and dehumanizing them.
4. They took away the guns from the Jews.
5. They recruited their youth to be their brownshirts, to even turn against their families and turn them in.
6. They started burning books.
7. They censored speech of those that spoke up against them.
8. They started raiding homes without warrants and confascating property.
9. They started rounding up the Jews and their supporters to put them into concentration camps.
10. They started experimenting on those in the concentration camps without voluntary consent, and killed many due to these experiments.
2. “The Media is the enemy of the people.” Don’t believe what you see or hear. Only believe what Trump says.
3 “They are vermin. They aren’t human in some cases.”
4 You are still allowed to have at least 10,000 guns per person if desired.
5 Young Republicans https://www.yrnf.com/
6 Republicans have been doing that for awhile.
7. If you are a Republican you better be pro Trump or you RINO.
8 They had a warrant when they raided his estate after the refused to turn over classified docs.
9 Trump and allies planning militarized mass deportations, detention camps
10 Not yet.