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Wow Bone. It's a good thing you don't game. This is why I stopped playing online with others (unless it's just with friends in small group games where we can't have outsiders). Since I was a young dude playing Halo 2 online up until trying some Rec Room in VR recently on the Quest 2, there are constantly little kids and even young adults that throw out the n-word and homophobic slurs on the regular. There are some FOUL people in the online gaming world that feel like not being actually know by anything more than their voice and avatar protects them, which it somehow must because it runs rampant.
I do game. Just not online with randos. But this is really sad to hear. Especially for young kids exposed to this. This should not be allowed and this should be a bannable offense from PSN/Xbox etc.
It doesn't appear anything happens when you report the abuse over and over and over and over again.

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Indy wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:49 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:48 am
AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:31 am
Wow Bone. It's a good thing you don't game. This is why I stopped playing online with others (unless it's just with friends in small group games where we can't have outsiders). Since I was a young dude playing Halo 2 online up until trying some Rec Room in VR recently on the Quest 2, there are constantly little kids and even young adults that throw out the n-word and homophobic slurs on the regular. There are some FOUL people in the online gaming world that feel like not being actually know by anything more than their voice and avatar protects them, which it somehow must because it runs rampant.
I do game. Just not online with randos. But this is really sad to hear. Especially for young kids exposed to this. This should not be allowed and this should be a bannable offense from PSN/Xbox etc.
It doesn't appear anything happens when you report the abuse over and over and over and over again.
:cry: It's not right. Why aren't parents lobbying for this?!
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There should be AI in place that listens to what is being said and when it hears certain racist, sexist or homophobic language, it kicks the player from the game and goes into a record (3 strikes and you're permanently banned, for example). The technology is there. It just needs to be implemented properly.
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It wouldn't be hard to do, from a technology stand point. But Sony doesn't care to do it. Just like Twitter won't do that. Or FB. They don't want to alienate all the racists who give them money.

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Indy wrote:
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It wouldn't be hard to do, from a technology stand point.
Wouldn’t be hard to do a first pass. Then the assholes start speaking in code, then the AI is updated with the new lingo, then the assholes adapt to the new AI…

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Even in games where they are fairly proactive about banning offensive words, people find creative ways to get around them. Like they'll use misspellings that are close enough to the bad word that you know what they mean, but far enough that a filter is unlikely to catch them. It's also hard and computationally expensive to analyze voice traffic in real-time to catch people saying bad things in voice chat.

Mainly you just want these games to have a reporting feature where you can get bad people banned or suspended if you see something bad.

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Wait, so now the deal is back on? Elon Musk and Twitter reach terms on a sale, after all. Is this actually going to go through? Or is it some kind of legal maneuvering that will fall apart or something?


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Once Musk realized he would have to pay a billion dollars for nothing, he agreed to back his original offer. Let's see where it goes, because following through is not what he does best.

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I didn’t know Musk well at all not that long ago. I saw all his tech companies and was really impressed. Now that I have become more familiar with him the person I am not impressed at all. This whole Twitter thing seems like a soap opera publicity stunt because he likes seeing his name in the news every day.

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I didn’t know Musk well at all not that long ago. I saw all his tech companies and was really impressed. Now that I have become more familiar with him the person I am not impressed at all. This whole Twitter thing seems like a soap opera publicity stunt because he likes seeing his name in the news every day.
That basically sums him up. The bluster/showmanship gets you to notice things and they look cool and shiny and futuristic. Then you scratch the surface and realize it is all bullshit covered in paint and chrome.

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Tesla cars are king of electric cars. He owns a company that makes Rocket ships. He owns a company that makes mini satellite’s that give internet to rural areas and even helps Ukraine fight their war. He owns a solar company. He owns a neural implant company that wants to connect human brains with computers. He owns a company that wants to build underground transportation that will travel 700 mph.

I personally think he’s kind of a douchebag but, his companies are clearly more than bs covered with paint and chrome.

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I didn’t know where to put this so putting it here. Regarding Kanye or whatever he calls himself these days:

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Tesla cars are king of electric cars. He owns a company that makes Rocket ships. He owns a company that makes mini satellite’s that give internet to rural areas and even helps Ukraine fight their war. He owns a solar company. He owns a neural implant company that wants to connect human brains with computers. He owns a company that wants to build underground transportation that will travel 700 mph.

I personally think he’s kind of a douchebag but, his companies are clearly more than bs covered with paint and chrome.
He bought an electric car company with money from slave emerald mines during apartheid. He used that money to buy a rocket company that we continue to subsidize with our tax dollars. He bought a satellite company, too. And the two other examples you use are described well--companies that want to do something but haven't. He even recently said that his Boring company was just a fake idea to make sure people didn't stop buying his cars.

He isn't a genius behind electric cars or rockets or satellites. He just buys these companies and loudly presents himself as the brains behind them.

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I don’t know anything about where or how he got his money. If anyone here accomplished 1/1000th of what he has accomplished I would be seriously impressed. They say Steve Jobs was a real asshole and wasn’t the genius behind making all their products. He was the guy who had the vision of the products and hired guys smart enough to make it a reality while treating them like crap. I don’t see anyone who is beating Tesla at making electric cars right now. His Space -X is subsidized like big oil is. Who else is sending up rockets for the US that isn’t subsidized? I don’t have an electric car company or a company that sends rockets into space. A solar company too and you’re not impressed in the slightest bit? Even if he is dumb as a post and just has money to burn, he still bought all these futuristic companies that have been at the forefront of the latest technology the world has to offer. His cars are the top electric cars. His rockets are the ones the US is using. Nobody else is making solar roof panels that are part of the roof and not just installed on top of the roof. I don’t really like the guy but I think you have a real grudge going on about this guy because none of that impresses you in the slightest Indy.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-mu ... mployees-7

Elon Musk is best known as the co-founder and CEO of Tesla, which he helped start in 2003. The automaker has since designed seven electric vehicle models, four of which are currently in production.

Tesla's headquarters recently relocated from Palo Alto, California to Austin, Texas. Nearly 100,000 people are employed by Tesla around the world, with over 28,000 new hires in 2021 alone.

According to his company bio, Musk is the "lead designer" at SpaceX

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I don’t know anything about where or how he got his money. If anyone here accomplished 1/1000th of what he has accomplished I would be seriously impressed. They say Steve Jobs was a real asshole and wasn’t the genius behind making all their products. He was the guy who had the vision of the products and hired guys smart enough to make it a reality while treating them like crap. I don’t see anyone who is beating Tesla at making electric cars right now. His Space -X is subsidized like big oil is. Who else is sending up rockets for the US that isn’t subsidized? I don’t have an electric car company or a company that sends rockets into space. A solar company too and you’re not impressed in the slightest bit? Even if he is dumb as a post and just has money to burn, he still bought all these futuristic companies that have been at the forefront of the latest technology the world has to offer. His cars are the top electric cars. His rockets are the ones the US is using. Nobody else is making solar roof panels that are part of the roof and not just installed on top of the roof. I don’t really like the guy but I think you have a real grudge going on about this guy because none of that impresses you in the slightest Indy.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-mu ... mployees-7

Elon Musk is best known as the co-founder and CEO of Tesla, which he helped start in 2003. The automaker has since designed seven electric vehicle models, four of which are currently in production.

Tesla's headquarters recently relocated from Palo Alto, California to Austin, Texas. Nearly 100,000 people are employed by Tesla around the world, with over 28,000 new hires in 2021 alone.

According to his company bio, Musk is the "lead designer" at SpaceX
You are the king of looking up things like that and sharing the links and selected quotes on here. You took way more time to look up what you did above and didn't bother to verify that he got his money from slave labor?

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I was specifically talking about his accomplishments and ignoring your slave labor part. You were specifically talking about slave labor and ignoring his accomplishments part.

I did look up the slave labor thing and found a lot of people talking about it and the evidence is murky at best.

Is it true that Elon Musk's family got their wealth from apartheid emerald mining?
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I asked Elon about this.

The myth began with an interview his father Errol gave to Business Insider South Africa in 2018, in which he relayed a story about once trading an old plane for some cash and a share in a Zambian emerald deposit.

But there were problems with the story:

None of it was corroborated
The quantity of wealth that came from the supposed emerald flow was never quantified
The journalist suggested a direct link between the emeralds, the family’s overall wealth, and Elon’s later success
One of the resulting articles had a US headline that claimed the family still owned the mine (despite there never having been formal ownership, despite any emerald supply having died out some 30 years prior, and despite Elon and his father being quite famously estranged)
That story then mutated into a myth that grew to include the idea of apartheid or “blood emeralds”, despite Zambia (i) not being a conflict gem country, (ii) having been a regional ringleader of anti-apartheid activity at the time.

(If we want to take it further, Errol was also a city councillor in Pretoria back in the 1970s, having run with an anti-apartheid affiliation.)

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Elon Musk’s father claims to have made a large amount of money by investing in an emerald mine in Zambia. Zambia wasn’t under apartheid. Musk was South African, which was under apartheid at the time, so the likelihood is that someone referred to it as “apartheid-era emerald mining”, and the details got dropped as the story spread.

The details of how much money Musk made from said mine, and for how long, really aren’t clear. Elon Musk and his father are apparently pretty thoroughly estranged, and have been for some time. The most we can say is that, when Elon Musk was a child, at least some of his family’s income appears to have come from an investment in an emerald mine.

That, however, is in no sense the source of Elon Musk’s wealth. Other than in the sense that it helped to pay for his education as a child. Elon Musk didn’t come from poverty, but he became insanely wealthy by building insanely successful companies. And none of those were built on family money. So the Musk family money right now comes from Paypal and SpaceX and Tesla and what have you.

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No, Elon Musk’s family got their wealth from Elon Musk. Although growing up they had so much money they couldn’t close their safe door, his father was a representative of the anti-apartheid Progressive Party, with the Musk children sharing their father's dislike of apartheid. Regardless, his parents divorced and Musk is now estranged from his father.

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quora? C'mon.

There are plenty of sources out there that even have quotes from his dad about it. You can just go to his Wikipedia page and it has it all there. Including the emerald mines and that he didn't found Tesla like you posted above.

Look, I get you think he is cool and smart. I won't be able to convince you he is not. I haven't met him or spent a lot of time around him. But I personally know multiple people that have worked for him directly and they are all in agreement that he is bluster and showmanship over substance (not to mention what an asshole and predator he is).

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If there are so many sources then post them. I did a search and that’s what came up.

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Sounds like you did a search trying to prove it wrong, instead of just going to his own wiki page where it clearly states it. There is also this interview with his dad from the Independent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/space/elo ... 74017.html
In the mid-1980s, the family profited handsomely from Errol Musk’s purchasing of an emerald mine, after selling their airplane for £80,000 (the equivalent of £320,000 today).

“We went to this guy’s prefab and he opened his safe and there was just stacks of money and he paid me out, £80,000, it was a huge amount of money,” Errol Musk said, according to Business Insider. Errol Musk was then made another offer: to spend £40,000 on an emerald mine. “I said, ‘Oh, all right’. So I became a half owner of the mine, and we got emeralds for the next six years,” Errol Musk said.

As a result of this, the teenage Elon Musk once walked the streets of New York with emeralds in his pocket. His father said: “We were very wealthy. We had so much money at times we couldn’t even close our safe,” adding that one person would have to hold the money in place with another closing the door. “And then there’d still be all these notes sticking out and we’d sort of pull them out and put them in our pockets.”

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I Talked to Elon Musk about Journalism and the Blood Emeralds Story
https://savingjournalism.substack.com/p ... journalism
There’s a particular story that bothers him a lot. A myth really. One that started with an interview done with his father back in 2018.

While there are a few variations now, the common features go something like:

Errol Musk owns/owned an emerald mine in Africa
Said mine was connected to apartheid
The profits thereof were material to the family’s wealth
Elon then leveraged said wealth to launch his career
What follows is about a few things: the truth, how the story got spun, the cost of misinformation, and why so many journalists seem curiously indifferent to those costs.

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