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I have conflicting opinions on this one. I do agree that someone who transitioned as an adult and grew up male should not be able to compete athletically against females. If they transitioned as a child before puberty it might change things, but I haven’t looked into it enough to know.

I do think the degree to which this is an issue is overblown. The number of transgender females hoping to compete as females athletically is very small.

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It may be a small number, but the number of female athletes that it affects can be exponentially greater for each one.

I believe transitioning a child is child abuse, as many could change their mind, but it's irreversible by then. On top of that, the suicide rates actually go up, not down, as was the original reason for doing it.
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I support trans rights, but I know there are some tricky cases like the sports question. It isn't nearly as big a problem as some right-wing media makes it out to be; very few actual trans women try to compete in organized women's sports. But some who do cause concerns, like the trans woman swimmer who has a massive physique and is breaking records.

IMO a good compromise would be to condition sports not only on biological sex but on things like testosterone / hormone levels, weight, height, etc. Boxing has weight classes to avoid lopsided fights where a 130 lb guy gets walloped by a 240 lb behemoth. Do the same thing for women's sports and maybe we can get people competing against opponents of similar skill level. And it removes any hypothetical benefit for a bulky man to falsely "identify" as female to get into women's sports. (I don't see any evidence that that is happening much at all, but, it removes any appearance of loopholes or concern.)

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I’m imagine the number of trans people competing in sports is a small number in the big picture but still, it’s totally unfair to the women they compete against. I say let them compete against men. There isn’t enough trans athletes around to have trans competitions.
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A "trans only" sports division would be silly because you could never get enough trans people to field a team, much less a whole league.

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Probably true, but it is trendy.
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Trans people don’t choose to be trans. If a girl is born in a boy’s body, it’s not her fault. And I don’t see how letting her play sports with other girls is any more unfair than letting Brittney Griner play with them.
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Well, I do. Playing sports with other girls is cool. Competing against girls in competitive competition isn’t fair. Britney is tall for a girl. She’s still a girl. Shaq was big for a guy. Can you imagine Shaq as a trans girl playing in the WNBA in his prime?
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Elon vowed to destroy the "woke mind virus" after one of his kids began taking puberty blockers.


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So dumb for a smart guy.
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TOO wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:22 pm
So dumb for a smart guy.
Maybe he's just book smart.
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:23 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:22 pm
So dumb for a smart guy.
Maybe he's just book smart.
It's not hard to smarter than a book.
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TOO wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:25 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:23 pm
TOO wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:22 pm
So dumb for a smart guy.
Maybe he's just book smart.
It's not hard to smarter than a book.
Yeah, I know. I didn't say how much smarter. Might be one page. He seems to know a lot about rocket science and electric cars but seems to be a complete imbecile about most other topics.
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Even if you aren't super jazzed about the trans stuff, saying you're child is dead and has a mind virus is pretty strong. I would want to keep contact with my kids no matter what they did.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:49 pm
Even if you aren't super jazzed about the trans stuff, saying you're child is dead and has a mind virus is pretty strong. I would want to keep contact with my kids no matter what they did.
He probably never sees his kids. They probably only know their nanny.
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He has 12 kids with three wives.
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Dude looks like a pineapple
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Nodack wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:21 pm
He has 12 kids with three wives.
Playing the law of averages I guess. He can afford to throw out a few bad apples.
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The trans one doesn’t want anything to do with Elon.
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Nodack wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:36 pm
Well, I do. Playing sports with other girls is cool. Competing against girls in competitive competition isn’t fair. Britney is tall for a girl. She’s still a girl. Shaq was big for a guy. Can you imagine Shaq as a trans girl playing in the WNBA in his prime?
Trans Shaq...just laughing at that one.

Wonder what SpanishNinja would think. Where did the Shaq Paq go?

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