FBI raids Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort

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These people are sick in the head, Marty. Don't expect it to make sense.
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Increasingly it looks like Trump was directly involved with hoarding these classified documents himself. What is going on here?


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I don't think it is much of a secret. He wanted to sell them (and maybe already did).

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Indy wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:46 am
I don't think it is much of a secret. He wanted to sell them (and maybe already did).
It's pretty obvious, right? Amazing this guy has gotten away with so much so far.
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There were already reports of Kushner trying to cut a deal with the Saudis on this stuff.

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The Saudi government did just recently give $2 billion (BILLION) to Jared Kushner for ... it's unclear what for. Consulting? A bribe?

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They unsealed the (redacted) affidavit used to approve the search warrant / raid on Trump's home by DOJ. Some tweets about the contents:






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Also, here's a related story that reminds us why it is very bad to have top secret documents lying around in boxes at Mar-a-Lago:


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Oh shit.


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Is this unprecedented in US history as far as we know? Has any other US President ever taken classified documents home with him after leaving the white house? And then refuse to give them up?
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WSJ is just another Republican rag now.


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Superbone wrote:
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Is this unprecedented in US history as far as we know? Has any other US President ever taken classified documents home with him after leaving the white house? And then refuse to give them up?
Everything Trump did was unPresidented in US history. He will always be remembered as one of the most corrupt Americans in history. A guy who took the Republican Party down a black hole of lies and deceit.

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Trump and his cronies are basically signaling to their people to do violence if Trump is prosecuted.


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I don’t care. They are on the wrong side of right and wrong says this agnostic guy who just read the article that claimed atheists and agnostics are the most hated people in America because of their perceived lack of morals by religious people. I am sitting here watching the supposedly most religious part of America completely abandon all morals by blindly aligning themselves with Trump. I would bet I am more religious than Trump and he is “Gods Chosen One”.

The whole MAGA thing is a joke.

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The smart people on my Twitter feed certainly think that a criminal investigation is ongoing against Trump over this FBI raid stuff. Not just a straightforward request to get the docs back, but a full-on prosecution.



This interesting thread discusses some of the details about how a judge and jury can conduct a trial about secrets without revealing and ruining all of those secrets in the process.


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Trump himself reposts the clip of Lindsey Graham saying there will be riots if Trump is prosecuted. It seems pretty clear to me that that's what he wants to happen.


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It’s pretty clear they want to use the threat of violence as a weapon.

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I saw this quote.

“Even the most extreme (and unlikely) hypotheticals for what Trump was up to with these documents—like outright selling nuclear secrets to a foreign power—would still be a lesser offense than a defeated President of the United States trying to install himself as an unelected autocrat and siccing a mob on Congress towards that end.”

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Helpful thread to understand what DOJ found during the raid and why it signals criminal activity.



Here's another thread with similar info.



The money photo that people keep sharing is this one, showing classified documents in a folder with other random personal stuff such as framed copies of Trump's Time magazine covers.


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