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Sorry, In2. I won't be feeding into your lies and misinformation. You are an excellent representation of your party. Congrats.
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Sorry, In2. I won't be feeding into your lies and misinformation. You are an excellent representation of your party. Congrats.
You were lied to over and over by your party, but I'm misinformation? Is this a parody account? I told you Biden wouldn't be on the ballot.
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In2ition wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:57 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:25 pm
Sorry, In2. I won't be feeding into your lies and misinformation. You are an excellent representation of your party. Congrats.
You were lied to over and over by your party, but I'm misinformation? Is this a parody account? I told you Biden wouldn't be on the ballot.
I'm glad you got one thing right. I truly am. That was necessary due his age-related, rapidly diminishing mental faculties in the last six months.
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One of the few honest Republicans:

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In2ition wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:57 pm
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Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:25 pm
Sorry, In2. I won't be feeding into your lies and misinformation. You are an excellent representation of your party. Congrats.
You were lied to over and over by your party, but I'm misinformation? Is this a parody account? I told you Biden wouldn't be on the ballot.
I am frustrated that the Biden campaign weren't forthcoming about the advanced state of his degradation. They limited his appearances and his media access so it was harder to assess his state.

But you seem to be saying that this is a sign that the Democratic political party is crooked or full of lies. I think the overall situation actually shows evidence of a healthy party. A small group of people in Biden's inner circle misled the rest of the party and country about the candidate, but the debate unmasked that he was incapable of being reelected. Once this became clear, the party pretty rapidly coalesced around demanding that he step aside. And so he did. Now we're going to nominate a more appropriate candidate who has the support of the party and is mentally healthy and qualified for the job.

By contrast, the Republican party has failed to evict its candidate who has committed multiple crimes and violated all sorts of principles and tests of character. He has instead hijacked the party and made himself its king and demigod. And they love it. I don't think this is a sign of a healthy party. I don't know what the GOP is going to do once Trump is gone or unable to campaign any more. He *is* the party, and the party is him. He might still win the 2024 election, but this is not how a healthy normal political party behaves.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:24 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:57 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:25 pm
Sorry, In2. I won't be feeding into your lies and misinformation. You are an excellent representation of your party. Congrats.
You were lied to over and over by your party, but I'm misinformation? Is this a parody account? I told you Biden wouldn't be on the ballot.
I am frustrated that the Biden campaign weren't forthcoming about the advanced state of his degradation. They limited his appearances and his media access so it was harder to assess his state.

But you seem to be saying that this is a sign that the Democratic political party is crooked or full of lies. I think the overall situation actually shows evidence of a healthy party. A small group of people in Biden's inner circle misled the rest of the party and country about the candidate, but the debate unmasked that he was incapable of being reelected
. Once this became clear, the party pretty rapidly coalesced around demanding that he step aside. And so he did. Now we're going to nominate a more appropriate candidate who has the support of the party and is mentally healthy and qualified for the job.

By contrast, the Republican party has failed to evict its candidate who has committed multiple crimes and violated all sorts of principles and tests of character. He has instead hijacked the party and made himself its king and demigod. And they love it. I don't think this is a sign of a healthy party. I don't know what the GOP is going to do once Trump is gone or unable to campaign any more. He *is* the party, and the party is him. He might still win the 2024 election, but this is not how a healthy normal political party behaves.
The party and their propoganda voice, the media, misled people for the past 4 years. It just took the debate to stop denying it. Hence why they decided to do a debate so early, so they could expose it with plausible time to replace him with the candidate of their choosing and not decided by the primary. Sounds pretty Autocratic. The same party that fixed the primary and bully people so he had no challenger. The same party that fixed the Primary against Bernie Sanders. Who directs the media to exactly what questions it can ask in an interview.

As far as the crooked prosecutions, how many Rights are they allowed to violate? How many precedents will they set to "Get Trump" at ALL COSTS?
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As far as the crooked prosecutions, how many Rights are they allowed to violate? How many precedents will they set to "Get Trump" at ALL COSTS?
I think it's fine for people to be prosecuted when they commit crimes.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:26 am
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:01 am
As far as the crooked prosecutions, how many Rights are they allowed to violate? How many precedents will they set to "Get Trump" at ALL COSTS?
I think it's fine for people to be prosecuted when they commit crimes.
How about when they didn't or when they have to create crimes to prosecute?
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In2ition wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:45 am
Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:26 am
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:01 am
As far as the crooked prosecutions, how many Rights are they allowed to violate? How many precedents will they set to "Get Trump" at ALL COSTS?
I think it's fine for people to be prosecuted when they commit crimes.
How about when they didn't or when they have to create crimes to prosecute?
:shrug: I don't think your words accurately describe what Trump did. If he didn't commit crimes and they were "created," I'm sure he'll be able to defend himself well in court. Oh wait, he got convicted of 34 felonies. And the only way he got out of the classified docs case (which was a strong case) is because a judge he appointed threw the whole case out on a bogus technicality.

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Was it the Dems or Trump who tried to extort Ukraine? He was impeached for it. The official ambassador and liaison’s said Trump tried to get them to extort Ukraine and were fired for refusing. Trump sends in Rudy, who wasn’t a government employee of any kind to extort them instead. This was ALL Trump being a mafia boss and he was busted for it. It was the first example of Trump trying to affect the next election thru fraud.

The Postal scam where he tried to slow down the mail before the election to hobble Dem votes was another example of mafia boss Trump trying to alter the results of the election in his favor thru fraud.

It seems several leaders have inadvertently had a couple of classified docs in their possession after they left office. In every case they are immediately turned over once found and all is forgiven. Trump took boxes and boxes of classified docs. They knew he took them and asked for them back. He denied having them and didn’t give them back. Then they threatened to come and get them and then he found some and turned them in. They said that wasn’t all of it. He said it was. They got a search warrant and found the boxes and boxes of classified docs sitting on the stage in a meeting room and in his desk next to his passport. Then Trump pivoted to several different excuses, all different from each other. Someone must have put them there. Why didn’t they just ask for them first. They are mine! I declassified them first. They had orders to kill me! Trumps case is different because he intentionally lied over and over and refused to comply unlike everyone else.

Was it the Dems or Trump that assaulted all women Trump has been accused of assaulting? Did they create all those dozens of women that came forward long before Trump ran for President? E Jean Carrol proved her case in a court of law. Maga says the media, prosecutors, judge, witnesses and jury were all fake and fraudulent. He lost.

Trump business found guilty of tax fraud? Did the Dems create that? They proved the case in a court of law. Trump lost. Must be the evil government again.

The Dems or Trump created Jan 6? Maga says, don’t believe all the fake things the Media says Trump and his cronies said that day. None of the participants were violent and of they were it was Intafada or BLM. Trump tried like hell to stop the riot but, no one would listen to him. It’s Pelosi’s fault. It’s the police’s fault. It’s the FBI’s fault. Certainly Trump had absolutely nothing to do with it…. This was Trump trying to steal an election.

Find me the votes? Was this the Dems or Trump? It was Trump on the phone telling the governor of a state he lost to FIND enough votes to win. It was recorded by the governor who anticipated Trumps move and recorded it to back his side of the story that Trump would of course deny ever happened. This was Trump trying to steal an election.

Fake electors? Definitely a crime and Trump was definitely the guy behind it. It wasn’t BLM, Intifada, Pelosi or Biden. It was Trump trying to steal an election.

Trump is super good at creating his own crimes. The evil government doesn’t have to create any.
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Why do you guys even bother? The Cons don't deal in facts.
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Alt facts
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Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:06 am
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:45 am
Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:26 am
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:01 am
As far as the crooked prosecutions, how many Rights are they allowed to violate? How many precedents will they set to "Get Trump" at ALL COSTS?
I think it's fine for people to be prosecuted when they commit crimes.
How about when they didn't or when they have to create crimes to prosecute?
:shrug: I don't think your words accurately describe what Trump did. If he didn't commit crimes and they were "created," I'm sure he'll be able to defend himself well in court. Oh wait, he got convicted of 34 felonies. And the only way he got out of the classified docs case (which was a strong case) is because a judge he appointed threw the whole case out on a bogus technicality.
Oh wait, he wasn't even allowed to present evidence or experts in this.

Oh, I get it, the rule of law only works in one direction and of course Trump is guilty no matter what. The details shouldn't be allowed to be in the case to defend himself.
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You have this wrong. Trump was allowed to present evidence and experts. He chose not to; he called 2 witnesses, the primary one being Robert Costello to talk about who arranged / knew about hush money payments. The defense did try to call campaign finance expert Brad Smith to testify, and the judge allowed this, but the judge told them he had to constrain his testimony to the case matter and not try to tell the jury directly how to interpret the relevant laws, since this might bias their conclusions. So Trump's team decided not to call Smith after all.
Trump's defense team wants to call election law expert Brad Smith to testify about federal campaign finance law. But the judge ruled this morning that allowing Smith to testify expansively on that topic would supplant the judge's role to determine what the law is.

Merchan did not block Trump from calling Smith, a former member of the Federal Election Commission. But the judge said he’d be restricted to the basics of the FEC and to “general definitions and terms” in campaign finance law, like what counts as a contribution or expenditure.

Trump’s defense wants Smith to testify about the FEC’s policy that expenses that exist “irrespective” of a candidacy are not deemed to be campaign expenditures — evidently as part of an argument that the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels wasn’t campaign-related under federal law.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-b ... 7236056289
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2 ... t-00158857

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In2ition wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:58 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:37 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:29 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:09 pm
I was never worried, tbh. I believe the Dems will get trounced in November up and down the ticket overall. Not everyone will lose, but it could be quite significant.

Get ready for “ The Savior” and all the hype coming… I’m sure the polls will have whoever this nominee is to be leading Trump by double digits.
Trump is certainly ahead right now. But Kamala hasn't even begun her campaign. She hasn't even got the nomination yet. At the very minimum, she'll be the center of media attention for a while, and she'll have a chance to make her case to the public. We'll see how it goes. I think she has some strengths and some weaknesses as a candidate. She's a good speaker, but in the past she's had a bad habit of seeming phony or saying things that don't seem well thought through. I think she's seemed strong lately, so I hold out some hope that she has learned some lessons from her rough 2020 Presidential primary campaign. We shall see.

I'm hoping if the Dems do some kind of "blast primary" process, that she's the nominee who comes out, and that it isn't a bloodbath that ends up hurting her and the other candidates. I hope she is the nominee and picks wisely for VP, a partner who can solidify her ticket and reassure voters that the Dem ticket is the sensible one.

Very interesting few weeks coming up.
Here's a question for the group, will Trump agree to a debate with her? I think and hope she would wipe the floor with him.
Lmao. Oh wait, you are serious?
LMAO. Oh wait, you are serious? You think that Trump can out debate Harris? Based on what? Is he going to attack her age or other things he attacked Biden about? He can't attack Biden's son or anything else they've used to attack Biden. And let's face it, Biden has lost the mental capacity to out debate Trump or most anyone else, sadly.

You have a lot of nerve being such a high and mighty asshole to think the convicted felon and dude with multiple sexual assaults on his rap sheet will out debate, especially with the whole "LMAO. Oh wait, you are serious" blurb. Glad you're so confident. I think you're sadly mistaken though and it's no longer some sort of guarantee that your dude, the guy who can do NO WRONG, is going to win. It's a joke that you can't even be critical of the guy you seem to worship, along with my dad and mom and all of the other MAGA folks. Note that I haven't, nor have many of us (or other Democrats that I know personally) found Biden to be free of mistake, the best candidate and some sort of great POTUS. It's a shame you and other Republicans will blindly go forward and follow their dude, no matter what the f*ck he does.
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:33 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:58 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:37 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:29 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:09 pm
I was never worried, tbh. I believe the Dems will get trounced in November up and down the ticket overall. Not everyone will lose, but it could be quite significant.

Get ready for “ The Savior” and all the hype coming… I’m sure the polls will have whoever this nominee is to be leading Trump by double digits.
Trump is certainly ahead right now. But Kamala hasn't even begun her campaign. She hasn't even got the nomination yet. At the very minimum, she'll be the center of media attention for a while, and she'll have a chance to make her case to the public. We'll see how it goes. I think she has some strengths and some weaknesses as a candidate. She's a good speaker, but in the past she's had a bad habit of seeming phony or saying things that don't seem well thought through. I think she's seemed strong lately, so I hold out some hope that she has learned some lessons from her rough 2020 Presidential primary campaign. We shall see.

I'm hoping if the Dems do some kind of "blast primary" process, that she's the nominee who comes out, and that it isn't a bloodbath that ends up hurting her and the other candidates. I hope she is the nominee and picks wisely for VP, a partner who can solidify her ticket and reassure voters that the Dem ticket is the sensible one.

Very interesting few weeks coming up.
Here's a question for the group, will Trump agree to a debate with her? I think and hope she would wipe the floor with him.
Lmao. Oh wait, you are serious?
LMAO. Oh wait, you are serious? You think that Trump can out debate Harris? Based on what? Is he going to attack her age or other things he attacked Biden about? He can't attack Biden's son or anything else they've used to attack Biden. And let's face it, Biden has lost the mental capacity to out debate Trump or most anyone else, sadly.

You have a lot of nerve being such a high and mighty asshole to think the convicted felon and dude with multiple sexual assaults on his rap sheet will out debate, especially with the whole "LMAO. Oh wait, you are serious" blurb. Glad you're so confident. I think you're sadly mistaken though and it's no longer some sort of guarantee that your dude, the guy who can do NO WRONG, is going to win. It's a joke that you can't even be critical of the guy you seem to worship, along with my dad and mom and all of the other MAGA folks. Note that I haven't, nor have many of us (or other Democrats that I know personally) found Biden to be free of mistake, the best candidate and some sort of great POTUS. It's a shame you and other Republicans will blindly go forward and follow their dude, no matter what the f*ck he does.
I know right and especially considering this is from the same guy who dropped this…
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This is wild. Trump wanted to build a moat with alligators and snakes to protect our border, LOL.

https://youtube.com/shorts/shp_AL4Lefw? ... 6WGehIHk-j
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:06 pm
This is wild. Trump wanted to build a moat with alligators and snakes to protect our border, LOL.

https://youtube.com/shorts/shp_AL4Lefw? ... 6WGehIHk-j
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Re: Biden 2024

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AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:33 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:58 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:37 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:29 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:09 pm
I was never worried, tbh. I believe the Dems will get trounced in November up and down the ticket overall. Not everyone will lose, but it could be quite significant.

Get ready for “ The Savior” and all the hype coming… I’m sure the polls will have whoever this nominee is to be leading Trump by double digits.
Trump is certainly ahead right now. But Kamala hasn't even begun her campaign. She hasn't even got the nomination yet. At the very minimum, she'll be the center of media attention for a while, and she'll have a chance to make her case to the public. We'll see how it goes. I think she has some strengths and some weaknesses as a candidate. She's a good speaker, but in the past she's had a bad habit of seeming phony or saying things that don't seem well thought through. I think she's seemed strong lately, so I hold out some hope that she has learned some lessons from her rough 2020 Presidential primary campaign. We shall see.

I'm hoping if the Dems do some kind of "blast primary" process, that she's the nominee who comes out, and that it isn't a bloodbath that ends up hurting her and the other candidates. I hope she is the nominee and picks wisely for VP, a partner who can solidify her ticket and reassure voters that the Dem ticket is the sensible one.

Very interesting few weeks coming up.
Here's a question for the group, will Trump agree to a debate with her? I think and hope she would wipe the floor with him.
Lmao. Oh wait, you are serious?
LMAO. Oh wait, you are serious? You think that Trump can out debate Harris? Based on what? Is he going to attack her age or other things he attacked Biden about? He can't attack Biden's son or anything else they've used to attack Biden. And let's face it, Biden has lost the mental capacity to out debate Trump or most anyone else, sadly.

You have a lot of nerve being such a high and mighty asshole to think the convicted felon and dude with multiple sexual assaults on his rap sheet will out debate, especially with the whole "LMAO. Oh wait, you are serious" blurb. Glad you're so confident. I think you're sadly mistaken though and it's no longer some sort of guarantee that your dude, the guy who can do NO WRONG, is going to win. It's a joke that you can't even be critical of the guy you seem to worship, along with my dad and mom and all of the other MAGA folks. Note that I haven't, nor have many of us (or other Democrats that I know personally) found Biden to be free of mistake, the best candidate and some sort of great POTUS. It's a shame you and other Republicans will blindly go forward and follow their dude, no matter what the f*ck he does.
What I got out of this was you got in your feelings, called me some names(against the rules of decorum here, think I'm passive aggressive, and seem to have a strained relationship with your own parents. Did I get that right?

I am critical of Trump when I feel it's needed, but the problem is that you think I need to pile on him when most of the outspoken people here are plenty critical of him all the time and show no restraint or shame in making your voice heard.

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