Around the League: 2018 Offseason
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Around the League: 2018 Offseason
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
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SVG really made a mess of things there. Simmons tweet cut to the quick.
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Ouch!
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
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Coaches can't be GM's. Shit just doesn't work.carey wrote:SVG really made a mess of things there. Simmons tweet cut to the quick.
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SVG is a very good coach. He should never have been the GM.carey wrote:SVG really made a mess of things there. Simmons tweet cut to the quick.
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Preach it.TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Coaches can't be GM's. s*** just doesn't work.carey wrote:SVG really made a mess of things there. Simmons tweet cut to the quick.
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I really hope the era of the Coach+GM is coming to an end.
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When has it been successful? Riley is the only coach/GM I can think of off the top of my head and I'm not even sure if he was. (at the same time.)
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Popovich. Red Auerbach.Superbone wrote:When has it been successful? Riley is the only coach/GM I can think of off the top of my head and I'm not even sure if he was. (at the same time.)
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When the league first started, all the coaches shared GM duties with owners. Nobody was paying a whole front office staff. But even Red gave up coaching about half way through his career to focus on his GM duties.Cap wrote:Popovich. Red Auerbach.Superbone wrote:When has it been successful? Riley is the only coach/GM I can think of off the top of my head and I'm not even sure if he was. (at the same time.)
RC Buford has been the GM in San Antonio for 16 years, and even won Exec of the Year twice. I'm sure Popovic makes the call when it comes to trades and free agency, but he has a GM he trusts to do the work of negotiating contracts, managing scouts, and keeping up with the other 29 teams in the league.
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How about Thibodeau?
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The Wolves have improved under Thibs. But he is showing clear signs of letting his GM work negatively affect his coaching work and vice versa. Acquiring so many veteran Bulls cast-offs like Derrick Rose, Taj Gibson, and so on has really changed the makeup of that roster. They had moments where they were playing 3-4 ex-Bulls on the floor at the same time in important minutes. If they had a real GM, they wouldn't let him make silly moves like that. Doc Rivers did similar things as Clippers coach/GM, acquiring late-00s Celtics players.JustWinBaby wrote:How about Thibodeau?
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Credit to Thibodeau for holding out until he could get himself into a position of power in Minnesota, not to mention a pretty damn good roster. Unfortunately for Wolves fans, that's about the only thing he's done. He's not done well as a GM, and I'm not sure he's that good of a coach.
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It looks to me like he did better as a gm than as a coach. The Wiggins extension is brutal, but it's possible he didn't have much of a choice with the owner on that one.
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Yup, but before Buford, Popovich did both roles for a while, and was effective.O_Gardino wrote:When the league first started, all the coaches shared GM duties with owners. Nobody was paying a whole front office staff. But even Red gave up coaching about half way through his career to focus on his GM duties.Cap wrote:Popovich. Red Auerbach.Superbone wrote:When has it been successful? Riley is the only coach/GM I can think of off the top of my head and I'm not even sure if he was. (at the same time.)
RC Buford has been the GM in San Antonio for 16 years, and even won Exec of the Year twice. I'm sure Popovic makes the call when it comes to trades and free agency, but he has a GM he trusts to do the work of negotiating contracts, managing scouts, and keeping up with the other 29 teams in the league.
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He won't last there. Guaranteed.Flagrant Fowl wrote:Credit to Thibodeau for holding out until he could get himself into a position of power in Minnesota, not to mention a pretty damn good roster. Unfortunately for Wolves fans, that's about the only thing he's done. He's not done well as a GM, and I'm not sure he's that good of a coach.
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Nobody lasts anywhere. Well, you could say that Pop and Riley have, but really that is it. The league has probably had 300 head coaches since Pop took over in SA, so really, you just hope to last through your contract and get your next gig.
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Jerry Sloan lasted a long time, but yeah, long coaching stints are very rare in the NBA.Indy wrote:Nobody lasts anywhere. Well, you could say that Pop and Riley have, but really that is it. The league has probably had 300 head coaches since Pop took over in SA, so really, you just hope to last through your contract and get your next gig.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
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Rick Carlisle has been in Dallas for 10 years now.
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Spoelstra has been in Miami a long time too