Around the League: 2018 Offseason
- The Bobster
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Why would him turning down a contract offer make you less of a fan?
He hasn't gone anywhere yet.
He hasn't gone anywhere yet.
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Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Just things over the past couple of years that have turned me off to him. From a bunch of things I've read he's just a dick as a teammate and seems to think he's a lot better than he actually is. He's a good player, but really hasn't accomplished anything in his career thus far.
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Fair enough.
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Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Why not? He wasn't right all year, left the playoffs with an injury the year before, and he just had hip surgery. It is definitely believable.
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Apparently there are two factors at work:
1. He wants to play with Kyrie Irving
2. He hates Towns and Wiggins lack of intensity/effort/focus/discipline.
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Can you blame him? I mean he generally plays his ass off on both ends, and to have your help Wiggins especially do nothing but shoot the ball, you have to be annoyed.
Jones and Vogel out, Lue or Lee in, draft Tyler Kolek.
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I wish Butler would stay there. I want to see that TWolves team rise and be a contender. Probably won't happen if they bleed talent like Butler and Wiggins.
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Wiggins is garbage, he has no idea what a pass is. He's terrible.
Jones and Vogel out, Lue or Lee in, draft Tyler Kolek.
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I still can't believe that people equate Booker to Wiggins, that makes no sense to me.
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- MightyMoog
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Is wiggins even better than Ariza at this point?In2ition wrote:I still can't believe that people equate Booker to Wiggins, that makes no sense to me.
Butler has a huge chip on his shoulder. He was drafted late and has had to work hard to become as good as he is. Wiggins and Towns have had an easier route. So I get Butlers frustrations.
- specialsauce
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Butler's a loser with a bad attitude.
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Wow
I didn't even recognize him at first, had me wondering if the vid is sped up . Is he even on a team....
I remember him going to the Nets but Jarrett Allen is their guy so his minutes weren't any better than the Sixers debacle
I didn't even recognize him at first, had me wondering if the vid is sped up . Is he even on a team....
I remember him going to the Nets but Jarrett Allen is their guy so his minutes weren't any better than the Sixers debacle
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"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
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That's so messed up.
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His first few years in the league won't be that easily forgotten, he is the poster boy for lazy.bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:34 amWow
I didn't even recognize him at first, had me wondering if the vid is sped up . Is he even on a team....
I remember him going to the Nets but Jarrett Allen is their guy so his minutes weren't any better than the Sixers debacle
Jones and Vogel out, Lue or Lee in, draft Tyler Kolek.
- Aztec Sunsfan
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He just need ONE fool in the right place saying “hey, we need a backup center, let’s take a flyer on this guy”, and we could be really close to one.TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:32 amHis first few years in the league won't be that easily forgotten, he is the poster boy for lazy.bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:34 amWow
I didn't even recognize him at first, had me wondering if the vid is sped up . Is he even on a team....
I remember him going to the Nets but Jarrett Allen is their guy so his minutes weren't any better than the Sixers debacle
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Yeah, he wants a piece of that crazy money. Time to get to work to get some. Then he can go back to what he was doing before.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:35 amHe just need ONE fool in the right place saying “hey, we need a backup center, let’s take a flyer on this guy”, and we could be really close to one.TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:32 amHis first few years in the league won't be that easily forgotten, he is the poster boy for lazy.bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:34 amWow
I didn't even recognize him at first, had me wondering if the vid is sped up . Is he even on a team....
I remember him going to the Nets but Jarrett Allen is their guy so his minutes weren't any better than the Sixers debacle
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
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Butler turning down the extension was purely financial. He can make an additional $80M over an extra year by waiting until next offseason to sign.TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:20 pmCan you blame him? I mean he generally plays his ass off on both ends, and to have your help Wiggins especially do nothing but shoot the ball, you have to be annoyed.
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Wow. It was already life changing for him and his future generations for years to come.Shabazz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:13 pmButler turning down the extension was purely financial. He can make an additional $80M over an extra year by waiting until next offseason to sign.TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:20 pmCan you blame him? I mean he generally plays his ass off on both ends, and to have your help Wiggins especially do nothing but shoot the ball, you have to be annoyed.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
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- Aztec Sunsfan
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Nerlens Noel and Isaiah Thomas are good bedtime histories about how playing 80 million flip coins on a job that pays on your last few months performance can backfire big time. But maybe 100millions on hand isn’t enough for your 4th generation to get by and that extra money is worth risking a season ending injury