Around the League: 2018 Offseason

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Superbone wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:17 am
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Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:07 am
Thibs should trade Wiggins for Noah and whatever else to make the salaries work (maybe Hardaway). He's the missing piece for the Wolves. Maybe they can also get Boozer involved in their broadcasts.
What?
They already have Rose, Butler, Gibson and now Deng. Noah has to be next, right?

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Superbone wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:17 am
Hermen wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:07 am
Thibs should trade Wiggins for Noah and whatever else to make the salaries work (maybe Hardaway). He's the missing piece for the Wolves. Maybe they can also get Boozer involved in their broadcasts.
What?
Just wanna stockpile guys who played for Thibs in Chi-Town.
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SI’s top 100 NBA players: https://www.si.com/nba/2018/09/10/top-1 ... k-nowitzki

#77 Ariza
#50 Booker
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50 is low. Booker is underrated.
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You don't get respect in the league if you don't win. Booker has led his team to 68 total wins, ever. Curry did that in a single year (67). He will get his respect once we make the playoffs and he can play on a big stage, instead of in the shadows.

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Indy wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:30 am
You don't get respect in the league if you don't win. Booker has led his team to 68 total wins, ever. Curry did that in a single year (67). He will get his respect once we make the playoffs and he can play on a big stage, instead of in the shadows.
Yeah yeah yeah, I understand that, but it still makes him underrated.
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In2ition wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:43 am
Indy wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:30 am
You don't get respect in the league if you don't win. Booker has led his team to 68 total wins, ever. Curry did that in a single year (67). He will get his respect once we make the playoffs and he can play on a big stage, instead of in the shadows.
Yeah yeah yeah, I understand that, but it still makes him underrated.
Do I think there are 50 guys in the league I would rather have on my team, no way. But I totally get why he is in that category of NBA player instead of in the top 25 or so we think he is.

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Until Booker proves he's either passable defensively or has solves some of his efficiency issues #50 isn't really that bad a ranking.
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Indy wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:30 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:43 am
Indy wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:30 am
You don't get respect in the league if you don't win. Booker has led his team to 68 total wins, ever. Curry did that in a single year (67). He will get his respect once we make the playoffs and he can play on a big stage, instead of in the shadows.
Yeah yeah yeah, I understand that, but it still makes him underrated.
Do I think there are 50 guys in the league I would rather have on my team, no way. But I totally get why he is in that category of NBA player instead of in the top 25 or so we think he is.
A big part of his value is that he’s only 21. If he were 28 and doing what he’s been doing, would 50 seem unreasonable?
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Sorry but there's no way Robert Covington, Gary Harris, Otto Porter should be ranked higher than Booker, defensive shortcomings taken into account. Dragic and Millsap are questionable, tho I would think age and relative injury history would be the biggest detractors there.

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Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:23 pm
Sorry but there's no way Robert Covington, Gary Harris, Otto Porter should be ranked higher than Booker, defensive shortcomings taken into account.
They all beat the crap out of him in VORP, WS, WS/48, BPM, and RPM.
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Put better players around Booker, give him a real coach and quit tanking and let's see how things pan out. Booker's a franchise player, 21 years old. None of those other guys are. Nice players, but not better than Booker and no coach or GM would take them over him.

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Cap wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:33 pm
ShelC wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:23 pm
Sorry but there's no way Robert Covington, Gary Harris, Otto Porter should be ranked higher than Booker, defensive shortcomings taken into account.
They all beat the crap out of him in VORP, WS, WS/48, BPM, and RPM.
Blah blah blah.

There’s not a team in the league that would rather have those players.

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And that's where analytics fails us.

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Hmmm
Another guy who was getting in Runs everywhere this summer
https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/1039946768014888960
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bajanguy008 wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:57 am
Hmmm
Another guy who was getting in Runs everywhere this summer
https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/1039946768014888960
I saw someone compare Russ to Rose today and I was like Hmmm , find it hard to draw that comp tho
Referencing that this is multiple knee issues Russ has had last couple seasons and that Rose was the last freakishly athletic PG and that his body didn't hold up
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1040663395618439168 Good for him. I'm sure JD put in a good word.

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Shabazz wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:08 am
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1040663395618439168 Good for him. I'm sure JD put in a good word.
Going to miss him on the bench. Best of luck to him and his career.
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Williams was our 5th highest paid player last season.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:28 am
Williams was our 5th highest paid player last season.
Stat of the night.

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