Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Nice pass Josh.
16 points tonight.
Also with 4 turnovers, 4 fouls, a technical and a flagrant.
16 points tonight.
Also with 4 turnovers, 4 fouls, a technical and a flagrant.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Some good from josh tonight and some bad. I could really live without his screaming for fouls on every drive to the rim.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Why are we fouling, down 14, with 30 seconds left?
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
I really don't think a team can win consistently with Devin Booker as their #1 option on offense shooting the ball 20+ times a night.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Welp, this game was dedicated to Zion. Over at the tip. Pathetic effort and got worked by a bunch of GLeaguers.
Everyone was trash.
Ayton has a bunch of empty stats. Most coming after the defender had given up or left him wide open. Then Go hug the guy who worked you after the game.
Not sure how Spaulding didn’t get mins over Bender especially since every g league player was having a career night. Bender is so pathetic.
Oh well. Pad our lottery odds I guess.
Everyone was trash.
Ayton has a bunch of empty stats. Most coming after the defender had given up or left him wide open. Then Go hug the guy who worked you after the game.
Not sure how Spaulding didn’t get mins over Bender especially since every g league player was having a career night. Bender is so pathetic.
Oh well. Pad our lottery odds I guess.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Also, whoever the shooting coach for this team is, better not be there next year. Terrible at threes to begin the year and now terrible at threes and free throws.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
I guess the Suns players really want Zion too. They laid a real egg in that 1st quarter and then they started playing.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
We lost this game when Igor bizarrely subbed out Ayton for Josh Jackson less than 4 minutes into the 3rd quarter, leaving a Bender-Bridges-Jackson front court against a big Bulls front line that had been abusing us all game. We had been making progress at chipping away at the lead to that point.
If he wanted to give Ayton a quick breather, he should have a) waited a few more minutes and b) put in Spalding who he mysteriously benched in the second half.
If he wanted to give Ayton a quick breather, he should have a) waited a few more minutes and b) put in Spalding who he mysteriously benched in the second half.
Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
A competition for Zion, involving tanks. It’s a miracle nobody’s been killed yet.
Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Strange how you don't mention his 7 boards, 2 assists and a steal. 2-4 from 3. Hmm.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:09 pmNice pass Josh.
16 points tonight.
Also with 4 turnovers, 4 fouls, a technical and a flagrant.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
History speaks for itself. 7th worst individual season of all time.Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:37 pmStrange how you don't mention his 7 boards, 2 assists and a steal. 2-4 from 3. Hmm.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:09 pmNice pass Josh.
16 points tonight.
Also with 4 turnovers, 4 fouls, a technical and a flagrant.
http://arizonasports.com/story/1881191/ ... -to-bulls/Josh Jackson, as many would have predicted, tried to be that third scorer. While he did so successfully on the box score with 18 points, his reckless and unattentive play on both ends of the court drastically hurt the Suns as it has all season.
Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Obviously you can't watch each game with an open mind. (And your avatar isn't helping you any. lol.) You've made up your mind. We're done here.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:46 pmHistory speaks for itself. 7th worst individual season of all time.Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:37 pmStrange how you don't mention his 7 boards, 2 assists and a steal. 2-4 from 3. Hmm.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:09 pmNice pass Josh.
16 points tonight.
Also with 4 turnovers, 4 fouls, a technical and a flagrant.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Across so many of the best statistics that measure the sum of offensive and defensive impact, Josh Jackson is God-awful.
According to ESPN's Real Plus Minus (RPM), his RPM Win share is 481st out of 503 players. (i.e. he's hurt us on the court more than just about any player in the league)
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/ ... /sort/WINS
According to basketball reference, his Winshares of -1.6 is the worst in the league by a wide margin.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... anced.html
According to NBAmath.com, Jackson's Total Points Added (TPA) is 3rd worst in the league (673rd out of 675 measured)
https://nbamath.com/2018-19-nba-tpa/
The short version is he's brutal on offense, and despite some effort on defense, he's still a net negative on defense as well due to low bball IQ. PLEASE stop pretending he's an average, or even slightly below average player. At this point, he's freaking terrible. On top of that, he was about as bad last year in each of these stats (508th out of 521 in RPM, 3rd from last in winshares, 2nd to last in TPA). In other words, the stats don't show an improvement.
I'm sorry, but he's got to go over the summer. Keep Bridges and Oubre, send out Jackson and Warren for a PG or a SF like Tyus Jones or Daniel Theis in a S&T.
According to ESPN's Real Plus Minus (RPM), his RPM Win share is 481st out of 503 players. (i.e. he's hurt us on the court more than just about any player in the league)
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/ ... /sort/WINS
According to basketball reference, his Winshares of -1.6 is the worst in the league by a wide margin.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... anced.html
According to NBAmath.com, Jackson's Total Points Added (TPA) is 3rd worst in the league (673rd out of 675 measured)
https://nbamath.com/2018-19-nba-tpa/
The short version is he's brutal on offense, and despite some effort on defense, he's still a net negative on defense as well due to low bball IQ. PLEASE stop pretending he's an average, or even slightly below average player. At this point, he's freaking terrible. On top of that, he was about as bad last year in each of these stats (508th out of 521 in RPM, 3rd from last in winshares, 2nd to last in TPA). In other words, the stats don't show an improvement.
I'm sorry, but he's got to go over the summer. Keep Bridges and Oubre, send out Jackson and Warren for a PG or a SF like Tyus Jones or Daniel Theis in a S&T.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Agree. When Robin Lopez racks up 24 points with a hook reminiscent of Bob Kurland or Swede Halbrook, that's an ugly statement.
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?
Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
First--History would agree with you.The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:26 pmI really don't think a team can win consistently with Devin Booker as their #1 option on offense shooting the ball 20+ times a night.
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Career: 23-68 (.253)
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This year: 7-22 (.241)
Second--I would want to see what he looks like when playing with a competent PG and a 2nd option that isn't light-years behind him.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Wow. Bob Kurland and Swede Halbrook references?LazarusLong wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:25 amAgree. When Robin Lopez racks up 24 points with a hook reminiscent of Bob Kurland or Swede Halbrook, that's an ugly statement.
Can we include Leroy (Lefty/Cowboy) Edwards and Bill Spivey just for fun?
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
Yeah, Jackson, Collin Sexton and Kevin Knox are all pretty terrible. And anybody who's been saying "why are they they still running Jamal Crawford out there?" is justified.Wormwood wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:19 amAcross so many of the best statistics that measure the sum of offensive and defensive impact, Josh Jackson is God-awful.
According to ESPN's Real Plus Minus (RPM), his RPM Win share is 481st out of 503 players. (i.e. he's hurt us on the court more than just about any player in the league)
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/ ... /sort/WINS
According to basketball reference, his Winshares of -1.6 is the worst in the league by a wide margin.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... anced.html
According to NBAmath.com, Jackson's Total Points Added (TPA) is 3rd worst in the league (673rd out of 675 measured)
https://nbamath.com/2018-19-nba-tpa/
The short version is he's brutal on offense, and despite some effort on defense, he's still a net negative on defense as well due to low bball IQ. PLEASE stop pretending he's an average, or even slightly below average player. At this point, he's freaking terrible. On top of that, he was about as bad last year in each of these stats (508th out of 521 in RPM, 3rd from last in winshares, 2nd to last in TPA). In other words, the stats don't show an improvement.
I'm sorry, but he's got to go over the summer. Keep Bridges and Oubre, send out Jackson and Warren for a PG or a SF like Tyus Jones or Daniel Theis in a S&T.
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Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
I was hoping you pick up on the big, goofy, white-guy post move reference.The Bobster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:48 amWow. Bob Kurland and Swede Halbrook references?LazarusLong wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:25 amAgree. When Robin Lopez racks up 24 points with a hook reminiscent of Bob Kurland or Swede Halbrook, that's an ugly statement.
Can we include Leroy (Lefty/Cowboy) Edwards and Bill Spivey just for fun?
Although, to his credit, Halbrook played well against Wilt back in the day ...
Window is open again ... blue skies ahead?
Re: Game Day: Bulls (19-52) @ Suns (17-54), Mon 3/18/19
I thought Ayton played really well tonight. One of his best of the season and he was the only player that was impactful tonight. They weren't empty stats. Yeah, he had a hard time with the Lopez hook, but Lopez also had that going consistently and was money.djy2j wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:44 pmWelp, this game was dedicated to Zion. Over at the tip. Pathetic effort and got worked by a bunch of GLeaguers.
Everyone was trash.
Ayton has a bunch of empty stats. Most coming after the defender had given up or left him wide open. Then Go hug the guy who worked you after the game.
Not sure how Spaulding didn’t get mins over Bender especially since every g league player was having a career night. Bender is so pathetic.
Oh well. Pad our lottery odds I guess.
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