Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Discussion of the league and of our favorite team.
User avatar
Shabazz
Posts: 3776
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:16 pm

Re: Kelly Oubre Jr. Restricted Free Agent Watch

Post by Shabazz » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:12 pm

It's a fair deal, but if we really like Kelly it's a shame not to lock him up for longer at a slightly higher cost per year. Now he'll be a UFA in 2 years.

User avatar
jonh
Posts: 814
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:34 pm

Re: Kelly Oubre Jr. Restricted Free Agent Watch

Post by jonh » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:12 pm

I wonder which party was pushing for such a short contract.
“I’m done with not making the playoffs. I’m serious. This is probably the last year I’m ever not making the playoffs.” Devin Booker-- April, 2017

User avatar
Flagrant Fowl
Posts: 2497
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:04 am
Location: Haeundae, Busan, South Korea

Re: Kelly Oubre Jr. Restricted Free Agent Watch

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:18 pm

I'm fine with this contract.

I'm not convinced that he's more than a fringe starter on a contending squad. The Suns aren't contenders, but that doesn't mean they should overpay him for his ideal role.

It's also wise to not tie up a lot of long term money for when they have to pay Ayton and Bridges, not to mention that they'll likely look to retain Saric.
Last edited by Flagrant Fowl on Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
UOducks4life in a previous life. Valar Morghulis.

User avatar
carey
Posts: 10869
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Kelly Oubre Jr. Restricted Free Agent Watch

Post by carey » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:19 pm

Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:12 pm
It's a fair deal, but if we really like Kelly it's a shame not to lock him up for longer at a slightly higher cost per year. Now he'll be a UFA in 2 years.
If it was longer it would have been lower. He's betting on himself it seems like and we should have a lot of space for that 2021 FA class. I think we probably offered him the TJ Warren special.
Go Suns!

Og Snus!

JeremyG
Posts: 1258
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:16 pm

Re: Kelly Oubre Jr. Restricted Free Agent Watch

Post by JeremyG » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:21 pm

Either he wanted more money in order to sign a longer deal, or we were lowballing him and only agreed to 15M/yr if it was a short-term deal.

User avatar
carey
Posts: 10869
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Kelly Oubre Jr. Restricted Free Agent Watch

Post by carey » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:22 pm

JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:21 pm
Either he wanted more money in order to sign a longer deal, or we were lowballing him and only agree to 15M/yr if it was a short-term deal.
As the years get shorter the price of doing business goes up. Why are we thinking a longer deal would have been more per year?
Go Suns!

Og Snus!

User avatar
Flagrant Fowl
Posts: 2497
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:04 am
Location: Haeundae, Busan, South Korea

Re: Kelly Oubre Jr. Restricted Free Agent Watch

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:23 pm

It would make sense if the Suns were holding to the $13-14M/year range and Oubre wanted the $16-18M/year range. Split the difference and shorten the deal by a year.
UOducks4life in a previous life. Valar Morghulis.

User avatar
SunsRIt
Posts: 107
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:00 am

Re: Kelly Oubre Jr. Restricted Free Agent Watch

Post by SunsRIt » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:26 pm

I like this deal. 2 years will keep him hungry since he will still be playing for a contract in the near future. If he isn't what we think he is we show him the door.

JeremyG
Posts: 1258
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:16 pm

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. - 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by JeremyG » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:30 pm

I want to know if the second year is a player option.

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 15631
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: Escondido, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by Superbone » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:32 pm

https://arizonasports.com/story/1996478 ... -contract/
The contract allows Oubre back into free agency as a 25-year-old, after the 2020-21 season.

Oubre, 23, injected life into the Suns this past season when he was acquired from the Washington Wizards in late December. In 40 games for the Suns, he put up the best numbers of his career, averaging 16.9 points, 4.9 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 1.0 blocks and 1.4 steals per game. He also did so efficiently, with a career-best field goal percentage of 45.3.

Due to the Suns holding Oubre’s Bird rights, the team is able to go over the cap in order to re-sign the former first-round pick.
Wormwood/Superbone 2019/2020 season bet: Suns win < 30 games, Wormwood wins, else 'Bone wins. 1 month avatar shame starting July 1st of winner's choosing.

User avatar
carey
Posts: 10869
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. - 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by carey » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:33 pm

JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:30 pm
I want to know if the second year is a player option.
I don't think they can do a 1+1 as an RFA. I'm trying to find out but it's being reported as a 2-year guarantee.
Go Suns!

Og Snus!

Drewsprocket
Posts: 249
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:44 pm

Re: Kelly Oubre Jr. Restricted Free Agent Watch

Post by Drewsprocket » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:33 pm

SunsRIt wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:26 pm
I like this deal. 2 years will keep him hungry since he will still be playing for a contract in the near future. If he isn't what we think he is we show him the door.
Good deal. I feel relieved because it incentivizes in some ways for Bridges to be the starting 3 just knowing that Oubre isn’t a long term investment.

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 15631
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: Escondido, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by Superbone » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:34 pm

Wormwood/Superbone 2019/2020 season bet: Suns win < 30 games, Wormwood wins, else 'Bone wins. 1 month avatar shame starting July 1st of winner's choosing.

User avatar
specialsauce
Posts: 3381
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:45 pm

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by specialsauce » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:40 pm

I like the shorter deal. We’re not sure what we have in Bridges or Oubre so this will allow us to reassess our starting 3 man in 2 years and decide where the money is best invested. If Bridges ends up declaring as the starter don’t want to be locked into Oubre at 18-20M per. And if he doesn’t develop like we’re hoping and ends up best suited as a bench player, while Oubre blossoms, then we up Oubre again in 2 years. Win-win

User avatar
iLLmatic
Posts: 3305
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:03 pm
Location: Gilbert, Arizona

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by iLLmatic » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:42 pm

Superbone wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:34 pm
Let's gooooooo

User avatar
n4th4n
Posts: 1267
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:54 am

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by n4th4n » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:44 pm

specialsauce wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:40 pm
I like the shorter deal. We’re not sure what we have in Bridges or Oubre so this will allow us to reassess our starting 3 man in 2 years and decide where the money is best invested. If Bridges ends up declaring as the starter don’t want to be locked into Oubre at 18-20M per. And if he doesn’t develop like we’re hoping and ends up best suited as a bench player, while Oubre blossoms, then we up Oubre again in 2 years. Win-win
We should have a clear picture of what we have in Cam Johnson at that point in time as well. If Bridges and Johnson look good, that makes Oubre expendable and we move into the summer of 2021 with max cap space.

JeremyG
Posts: 1258
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:16 pm

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by JeremyG » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:56 pm



I assume “straight” means no options.

User avatar
Ring_Wanted
Posts: 4593
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:47 am

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by Ring_Wanted » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:05 pm

Good. A deal that won't wreck the salary cap and preserves flexibility going forward. Let's hope this was a clean negotiation and there is no bad blood between the player and the FO.

User avatar
Marty [Mori Chu]
Posts: 10213
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:05 am

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:11 am

Hey, I really like this deal. Good salary amount and only 2 years. Hooray!

User avatar
SDC
Posts: 3856
Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:25 pm

Re: Tsunami Papi is Back! - Kelly Oubre Jr. Signs for 2 Years, $30 Mil

Post by SDC » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:16 am

i'd still in favor of signing shaun livingston to a one year deal. suns goal this season is to make the playoffs so jerome shouldnt expect much playing time unless somebody gets injured at guard.

jerome, rubio, tj, livingston
oubre, mikal, cam
baynes, ayton, saric and kaminsky

Post Reply