That’s false- neither did their jobs. Ayton and Bridges did work, the rest of the team sucked regardless of the box score. Cam hit a few big 3s at the end to give us a chance.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:38 amDidn't watch and not going to - but from the box score it looks like the starters mostly did their jobs and the bench did not. Story of the season.
Game Day: Pistons (19-41) @ Suns (24-35), Fri 2/28/20
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I just don't know how a team that beats the Utah Jazz one night can lay an egg against the Pistons a few nights later. What kind of team is this?
The thing I keep coming back to is that I want JJ / the FO to go get us more 3-point shooters in the offseason. There have been way too many games where we make like 20% of our 3s and it is hurting us. We need deep threats all around Ayton and Book so they can dish it out for a high-percentage shot. Cam is a good start; lock Bridges in a gym all summer till he fixes his shot. Search for a starting 4 who can hit 3s. Ditto for a backup guard. Don't sign a single player who cannot shoot 3-pointers. Not a single one.
The thing I keep coming back to is that I want JJ / the FO to go get us more 3-point shooters in the offseason. There have been way too many games where we make like 20% of our 3s and it is hurting us. We need deep threats all around Ayton and Book so they can dish it out for a high-percentage shot. Cam is a good start; lock Bridges in a gym all summer till he fixes his shot. Search for a starting 4 who can hit 3s. Ditto for a backup guard. Don't sign a single player who cannot shoot 3-pointers. Not a single one.
Re: Game Day: Pistons (19-41) @ Suns (24-35), Fri 2/28/20
And then whenever he’s having a terrible shooting night he gets 25 FGA, I don’t get it! A few of those may be extra FGA due to missed putbacks but still!AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:59 amTHIS. I cannot stress enough how ridiculous it is that he is dominating (I think he had 14 points without a miss at the half) and he ends up with 20 and only 12 touches at 80% FG. Hey Monty, tell your PG or Booker to get Ayton the ball.
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Re: Game Day: Pistons (19-41) @ Suns (24-35), Fri 2/28/20
The fact that Rubio has the same amount of shots as Ayton tell you all you need to know about Monty and his offensive deficiency. We are constantly passing to Rubio late in the clock for the shot. It’s maddening. He’s the worst option IMO out of the starting lineup. I can appreciate how Ricky runs the offensive (kinda) and his value as a leader but we play into the other teams game plan having him shoot as much as he does. Wake up Monty!JeremyG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:30 amAnd then whenever he’s having a terrible shooting night he gets 25 FGA, I don’t get it! A few of those may be extra FGA due to missed putbacks but still!AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:59 amTHIS. I cannot stress enough how ridiculous it is that he is dominating (I think he had 14 points without a miss at the half) and he ends up with 20 and only 12 touches at 80% FG. Hey Monty, tell your PG or Booker to get Ayton the ball.
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Monty has no clue on an effective NBA offense or how to draw up plays. I’m hoping they bring an offensive minded assistant. This 1986 style isn’t working. I remember him saying he wants at least 30 three attempts. Then he never did anything about making sure that actually happened. He’s got good intentions but no clue how to execute them.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:00 pmHow many times is Monty going to call for that wet ass play???? Booker to the corner 3 fading away?!! It’s so fucking hard!!! The degree of difficulty is so unnecessary and it has yet to work. For fucks sake call an easier look!!!
He finessed his way into this job the way James Jones did using player relationships as his chip rather than anything that would translate into success.
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That’s extreme to me. I like Monty overall
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That's what Eddie kept asking.
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When they finally turned it on, Rose and BASE could not be stopped. Too late!LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:09 amSuns played to the level of competition and got burned.
This is not a Suns team that can mail it in for 2 1/2 quarters against anybody and expect to win.
Booker made a number of really bad entry passes. Cut down on turnovers, better/more passed to Ayton, and the Suns win by eight.
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Agreed. Is he perfect? No. But he's pretty perfect for this team and in spite of this stinker, they've continued to get better.
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I mean we do average over 30 three attempts per game, so not sure why he’d need to do anything. Our bigger problem is making 3’s. We are a below average 3 pt shooting team. If we took more, we’d probably get worse.djy2j wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:53 amMonty has no clue on an effective NBA offense or how to draw up plays. I’m hoping they bring an offensive minded assistant. This 1986 style isn’t working. I remember him saying he wants at least 30 three attempts. Then he never did anything about making sure that actually happened. He’s got good intentions but no clue how to execute them.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:00 pmHow many times is Monty going to call for that wet ass play???? Booker to the corner 3 fading away?!! It’s so fucking hard!!! The degree of difficulty is so unnecessary and it has yet to work. For fucks sake call an easier look!!!
He finessed his way into this job the way James Jones did using player relationships as his chip rather than anything that would translate into success.
I agree with Mori, we need to add shooters to the roster. Saric has been very disappointing. Baynes has been awful after his hot start. Bridges hasn’t shot like we wanted. Rubio was expected. Oubre and Booker are ok. Cam and Carter are the only good 3pt shooters on the team.
This offseason I think we need to replace Saric/Baynes minutes with a big who can hit 38%+. Then we need to replace the okobo/Jerome minutes with another player that can hit 38%+. Then hopefully get some improvements from Oubre/Booker/Bridges. I don’t know if Carter will be back, I’m open to it in a small role. Then we need to get Cam more shots. Limit Rubio’s attempts to corner 3’s as much as possible. Hard to do with him as pg though.
Re: Game Day: Pistons (19-41) @ Suns (24-35), Fri 2/28/20
I’m fine with him. I realize stability is the most important thing for this franchise and I’m not at all trying to replace him. The guys seem to like him. I just think he’s illustrated he’s shit for play calling and doesn’t seem to know how to maximize players ability on the court
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What exactly is this team good at other than shooting free throws?
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Re: Game Day: Pistons (19-41) @ Suns (24-35), Fri 2/28/20
LosingThe Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:34 amWhat exactly is this team good at other than shooting free throws?
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Fashion shows?The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:34 amWhat exactly is this team good at other than shooting free throws?
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Don’t get my blood boilingSuperbone wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:42 pmFashion shows?The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:34 amWhat exactly is this team good at other than shooting free throws?
Re: Game Day: Pistons (19-41) @ Suns (24-35), Fri 2/28/20
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:40 pmDon’t get my blood boilingSuperbone wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:42 pmFashion shows?The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:34 amWhat exactly is this team good at other than shooting free throws?
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Re: Game Day: Pistons (19-41) @ Suns (24-35), Fri 2/28/20
I think what is tells you is that the league knows Rubio can't shoot, so that is who they leave open. If we had an average shooter and defender and passer at PG, we would be so much better off.djy2j wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:47 amThe fact that Rubio has the same amount of shots as Ayton tell you all you need to know about Monty and his offensive deficiency. We are constantly passing to Rubio late in the clock for the shot. It’s maddening. He’s the worst option IMO out of the starting lineup. I can appreciate how Ricky runs the offensive (kinda) and his value as a leader but we play into the other teams game plan having him shoot as much as he does. Wake up Monty!JeremyG wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:30 amAnd then whenever he’s having a terrible shooting night he gets 25 FGA, I don’t get it! A few of those may be extra FGA due to missed putbacks but still!AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:59 amTHIS. I cannot stress enough how ridiculous it is that he is dominating (I think he had 14 points without a miss at the half) and he ends up with 20 and only 12 touches at 80% FG. Hey Monty, tell your PG or Booker to get Ayton the ball.