Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Nodack » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:52 pm

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Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:36 pm
I don't know why he doesn't just move the team to Seattle. They could change everything about the franchise, but they're never winning over a majority of the people in the area. The Lakers are the only team that will ever matter in LA.
If they won a Championship I think you would be amazed at the number of lifelong fans that come out in LA.

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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Mori Chu » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:11 pm

Everybody acts like the Clippers are trash and should leave LA because the Lakers are more popular. But I'm sure the Clips still make tons of money by being in LA, on tickets, on the local TV deal, everything else. And players still love to play in LA. So I don't see why they would be in any hurry to leave town.

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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Superbone » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:37 pm

Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:11 pm
Everybody acts like the Clippers are trash and should leave LA because the Lakers are more popular. But I'm sure the Clips still make tons of money by being in LA, on tickets, on the local TV deal, everything else. And players still love to play in LA. So I don't see why they would be in any hurry to leave town.
OTOH, I’d love to see Seattle get a team back. Does LA really need two teams?
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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Superbone » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:06 pm

The Suns beat the Wizards in Washington in NBA2K on Twitter today. Two wins away! ;)
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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:10 am

Nodack wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:36 pm
I don't know why he doesn't just move the team to Seattle. They could change everything about the franchise, but they're never winning over a majority of the people in the area. The Lakers are the only team that will ever matter in LA.
If they won a Championship I think you would be amazed at the number of lifelong fans that come out in LA.
I don't think so. I could only see it happening if the Lakers were being run under really bad ownership. I mean like Dolan or Sterling type bad.
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Everybody acts like the Clippers are trash and should leave LA because the Lakers are more popular. But I'm sure the Clips still make tons of money by being in LA, on tickets, on the local TV deal, everything else. And players still love to play in LA. So I don't see why they would be in any hurry to leave town.
Everyone in the NBA makes money right now. I think they'd make more in Seattle, but you have a point about players wanting to be in LA. Remember when the Suns had that kind of allure?
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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by 3rdside » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:28 am

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:10 am
I don't think so. I could only see it happening if the Lakers were being run under really bad ownership. I mean like Dolan or Sterling type bad.

Winning creates all sorts of fans - and if you'd said in 1998 Manchester City would be the biggest club in Manchester in less than 13 years, when they had just been relegated to the third division and United had every trophy in their cabinet, you would have been locked up.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
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Everyone in the NBA makes money right now. I think they'd make more in Seattle, but you have a point about players wanting to be in LA. Remember when the Suns had that kind of allure?

With the winter weather here and size of the city we can turn it around, but that relies on Sarver taking a hike, or at least learning which I'm not too hopeful about, and possibly the season not shifting forward by so much that it finishes at the end of summer.

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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Mori Chu » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:29 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:10 am
Everyone in the NBA makes money right now. I think they'd make more in Seattle, but you have a point about players wanting to be in LA. Remember when the Suns had that kind of allure?
Counterpoint: I lived in Seattle from 2003 - 2013, and in general I found that the Sonics didn't have as great of a fan base as you'd think. It's muuuuuch more of a Seahawks town. I'd go to a Sonics game and there would be a contingent of passionate fans there, but it wasn't as loud or full as you might expect from such a big city. I am sure they'd love to have the Sonics back, but I actually think the Clippers franchise makes much more money in LA than they would in Seattle.

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Post by Indy » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:37 pm

Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:29 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:10 am
Everyone in the NBA makes money right now. I think they'd make more in Seattle, but you have a point about players wanting to be in LA. Remember when the Suns had that kind of allure?
Counterpoint: I lived in Seattle from 2003 - 2013, and in general I found that the Sonics didn't have as great of a fan base as you'd think. It's muuuuuch more of a Seahawks town. I'd go to a Sonics game and there would be a contingent of passionate fans there, but it wasn't as loud or full as you might expect from such a big city. I am sure they'd love to have the Sonics back, but I actually think the Clippers franchise makes much more money in LA than they would in Seattle.
They were also pretty bad during those years. They had that one good run with Nate, but other than that they were trash. On the other hand, the Seahawks were in the playoffs 5 straight years in that span, including a superbowl appearance.

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Post by Superbone » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:20 pm

Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:29 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:10 am
Everyone in the NBA makes money right now. I think they'd make more in Seattle, but you have a point about players wanting to be in LA. Remember when the Suns had that kind of allure?
Counterpoint: I lived in Seattle from 2003 - 2013, and in general I found that the Sonics didn't have as great of a fan base as you'd think. It's muuuuuch more of a Seahawks town. I'd go to a Sonics game and there would be a contingent of passionate fans there, but it wasn't as loud or full as you might expect from such a big city. I am sure they'd love to have the Sonics back, but I actually think the Clippers franchise makes much more money in LA than they would in Seattle.
Counterpoint: I lived in Seattle from 1996 - 2000. I went to a couple regular season games and the crowd was great. I went to a playoff game and the crowd was packed and intense!
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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Nodack » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:50 pm

Winning is everything.

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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:38 pm

Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:29 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:10 am
Everyone in the NBA makes money right now. I think they'd make more in Seattle, but you have a point about players wanting to be in LA. Remember when the Suns had that kind of allure?
Counterpoint: I lived in Seattle from 2003 - 2013, and in general I found that the Sonics didn't have as great of a fan base as you'd think. It's muuuuuch more of a Seahawks town. I'd go to a Sonics game and there would be a contingent of passionate fans there, but it wasn't as loud or full as you might expect from such a big city. I am sure they'd love to have the Sonics back, but I actually think the Clippers franchise makes much more money in LA than they would in Seattle.
I would guess that was flipped from 1993-2003 when the Sonics were great and the Seahawks were mostly terrible.

Also looking back, 1998-2004 were kind of the Dark Ages for the NBA. Post-Jordan (sort of), no one could really stop Shaq (not even the officials) and a lot of young guys who got paid thinking they were the next Jordan. I'll always believe D'Antoni and Nash together was one of the biggest reasons the NBA got out of that funk and lead to where it is today.
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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Aztec Sunsfan » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:33 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:36 pm
I don't know why he doesn't just move the team to Seattle. They could change everything about the franchise, but they're never winning over a majority of the people in the area. The Lakers are the only team that will ever matter in LA.
Balmer is not running the Clippers under a business scope. The paragraph I quoted earlier, top it with that direct quote from Balmer “I’m not sure they understand what they’ve gotten themselves into, from my perspective.”, tells you everything you need to know about it: He is trying to conquer LA and will do whatever it takes financially to make it happen. Of course that same quote fits to him, but my point is about why he is not considering at all at the moment any relocation. Perhaps in a few years, if nothing interesting happens and he gets tired and bored from his toy or his domination plans. But this last couple years, it's clear that he has achieved on moving the team forward into something really interesting.

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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by 3rdside » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:08 am

Top 25 under 25

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/288 ... 25#slide24

Booker / Mitchell at 9 and 8 respectively should swap places at least (Mitchell could drop a few more spots imo) but other than that the list looks pretty accurate.

Lonzo at 24 I still love and think he'll be a riser, Trae Young at 6 i look forward to seeing in the lottery year after year setting new standards for what empty stats means.

Zion at 2 a little high probably this early in the piece, but not too high if you're okay with the small sample size.

And Doncic at 1 but who cares about that :)

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Post by Superbone » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:02 am

Doncic? Who? Never heard of him.
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Post by Superbone » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:56 am

Saw Kaminsky mentioned on CNN due to this tweet:

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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by Nodack » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:02 am

Hippo Kaminsky?

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Post by Superbone » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:56 am

Nodack wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:02 am
Hippo Kaminsky?
What can I say? The dude's a funny guy.
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Post by Superbone » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:17 pm

Here's how Book is spending his time:

https://news.yahoo.com/column-suns-star ... 55291.html
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Re: Suns News: Week 20 3/9-3/15

Post by O_Gardino » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:27 am

Superbone wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:06 pm
The Suns beat the Wizards in Washington in NBA2K on Twitter today. Two wins away! ;)
Are these game sonly on Twitter? I'm not a Twittee, but I'd like to know where to find these.
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Post by Superbone » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:13 am

O_Gardino wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:27 am
Superbone wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:06 pm
The Suns beat the Wizards in Washington in NBA2K on Twitter today. Two wins away! ;)
Are these game sonly on Twitter? I'm not a Twittee, but I'd like to know where to find these.
Not sure. I just read some recaps after the fact and watched a few highlights.
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