2020 Election Thread

[Cap]

sorry, who is lin wood and how is he connected to companies like gateway pundit or newsmax or fox news?

He’s that nut with the brilliant plan to expose Dominion’s election fraud: boycott the Georgia elections, then the Dominion machines that steal votes from Republicans will report negative numbers of Republican votes, proving the fraud, and getting Trump a second term. (Unfortunately, Trump hasn’t bought into the plan.)

I’m sure he is looking forward to discovery. I’m also sure the reality of what he gets will fail to match his imagination.

[Indy]

lol cap

[In2ition]

sorry, who is lin wood and how is he connected to companies like gateway pundit or newsmax or fox news?

I didn't say he was connected to them.

[AmareIsGod]

The House voted overwhelmingly to increase COVID-19 relief checks to $2,000, meeting President Donald Trump’s demand for bigger payments and sending the bill to the GOP-controlled Senate, where the outcome is uncertain.

The fucking GOP-controlled Senate.

People need to take a moment and just appreciate the stinking hubris of Senate Republicans right now. Here they are, apparently ready to torch $2,000 of direct relief for Americans during the worst pandemic in 100 years. Millions out of work and in poverty through nothing they did. And still they’re asking for the right to keep the majority. Still they’re asking Georgians to get out and vote for Loeffler and Perdue.

And the thing is, they might win. They have a good chance of keeping their power. But the unbelievable hatred you must have for people to make that ask of them, and still actively withhold the help they need from them at the same time. That’s unreal. That takes some special disgust for your people, and some extra smug confidence that you don’t even need to look out for them and still you can keep your seats. That is beyond accountability and in a whole other stratosphere of “fuck you, peasants.”

What say you, Republicans of .net?

[In2ition]

I doubt that the GOP fails to pass this. There were a lot of Reps that voted for the plan, but Trump also wanted all the pork out of the bill too, and no one was willing to do that either. What are you looking for AIG? Are you looking to group all Republicans into whatever crazy ad hominin attack narrative of all Republicans have "unbelievable hatred you must have for people to make that ask for them, and still actively withhold the help they need from them at the same time."? Both parties are broken and filled with corrupt people, that's a f'n fact. Even your beloved Dems. They need to be weeded out with a blowtorch.

I think the bill shouldn't have the pork in it and get passed, even if it was more, and they should get rid of the provision that excludes 18-24 yr olds that go to college, along with helping out "small businesses", like restaurants, and not the Lakers, Amazon, Mega Churches, or any other large business that claims they are a small business. There is all kinds of ridiculous special interest crap, foreign aid and ect., but you can count on this getting passed, because these idiots are beholden to the money they are sending away and the stupid crap in it.

[AmareIsGod]

I doubt that the GOP fails to pass this. There were a lot of Reps that voted for the plan, but Trump also wanted all the pork out of the bill too, and no one was willing to do that either. What are you looking for AIG? Are you looking to group all Republicans into whatever crazy ad hominin attack narrative of all Republicans have "unbelievable hatred you must have for people to make that ask for them, and still actively withhold the help they need from them at the same time."? Both parties are broken and filled with corrupt people, that's a f'n fact. Even your beloved Dems. They need to be weeded out with a blowtorch.

I think the bill shouldn't have the pork in it and get passed, even if it was more, and they should get rid of the provision that excludes 18-24 yr olds that go to college, along with helping out "small businesses", like restaurants, and not the Lakers, Amazon, Mega Churches, or any other large business that claims they are a small business. There is all kinds of ridiculous special interest crap, foreign aid and ect., but you can count on this getting passed, because these idiots are beholden to the money they are sending away and the stupid crap in it.

You think Mitch won't refuse to hold a vote on this in the senate? Even still, we all know what happens when this gets to the Senate. Hopefully it costs Perdue and Loeffler their jobs.

"Our opponents, Perdue and Loeffler, only supported this legislation because they were more worried about their jobs than about your well-being. They could have gone on the record supporting regular stimulus payments to everyday Americans back in March - instead they sold stock to ensure they'd benefit while people like you suffered."

Georgia, if you care about having Senators who actually give a shit about you, Warnock and Ossoff should be SLAM DUNK votes compared to these two.

Perdue and Loeffler's preemptive insider trading alone should have been reason enough; their hesitance to embrace this stimulus for the welfare of their constituents and other Americans should have sealed it.

If even one of these clowns winning their seat is GUARANTEED to continue enabling McConnell.

And In2ition, what say YOU about Mitch McConnell? The guy is a fucking cancer. If anyone deserves a blowtorch, it's that weasel and scumbag.

[In2ition]

I doubt that the GOP fails to pass this. There were a lot of Reps that voted for the plan, but Trump also wanted all the pork out of the bill too, and no one was willing to do that either. What are you looking for AIG? Are you looking to group all Republicans into whatever crazy ad hominin attack narrative of all Republicans have "unbelievable hatred you must have for people to make that ask for them, and still actively withhold the help they need from them at the same time."? Both parties are broken and filled with corrupt people, that's a f'n fact. Even your beloved Dems. They need to be weeded out with a blowtorch.

I think the bill shouldn't have the pork in it and get passed, even if it was more, and they should get rid of the provision that excludes 18-24 yr olds that go to college, along with helping out "small businesses", like restaurants, and not the Lakers, Amazon, Mega Churches, or any other large business that claims they are a small business. There is all kinds of ridiculous special interest crap, foreign aid and ect., but you can count on this getting passed, because these idiots are beholden to the money they are sending away and the stupid crap in it.

You think Mitch won't refuse to hold a vote on this in the senate? Even still, we all know what happens when this gets to the Senate. Hopefully it costs Perdue and Loeffler their jobs.

"Our opponents, Perdue and Loeffler, only supported this legislation because they were more worried about their jobs than about your well-being. They could have gone on the record supporting regular stimulus payments to everyday Americans back in March - instead they sold stock to ensure they'd benefit while people like you suffered."

Georgia, if you care about having Senators who actually give a shit about you, Warnock and Ossoff should be SLAM DUNK votes compared to these two.

Perdue and Loeffler's preemptive insider trading alone should have been reason enough; their hesitance to embrace this stimulus for the welfare of their constituents and other Americans should have sealed it.

If even one of these clowns winning their seat is GUARANTEED to continue enabling McConnell.

And In2ition, what say YOU about Mitch McConnell? The guy is a fucking cancer. If anyone deserves a blowtorch, it's that weasel and scumbag.

First off, I'm no fan of Cocaine Mitch who along with his wife is sold out to China. He would be one of many idiots dragged out by their ears.

Second, don't lose any sleep tonight. Mitch will put it to a vote, as he probably has a gun to his head along with most of the Senate to whatever foreign nation or special interest group they sold their vote to that will directly or indirectly get money from the porkulos.

Third, Warnock, the wife beating Communist, is a SLAM DUNK? Dear Lord, let's hope not. I honestly know nothing about Ossoff.

[virtual9mm]

Hopefully it costs Perdue and Loeffler their jobs.

This.

[AmareIsGod]

Well, can't say I'm at all surprised.

$2,000 checks sputter after McConnell blocks Dems
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/2 ... ems-451918

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday stymied Democrats’ long-shot bid to immediately increase direct stimulus payments to $2,000, leaving the fate of bigger checks in limbo as this Congress comes to a close at the end of the week.

[AmareIsGod]

[AmareIsGod]

Why do we even have a Congress when Mitch decides everything anyway?

[Superbone]

Why do we even have a Congress when Mitch decides everything anyway?

Just like our Founding Fathers imagined it!

[Indy]

Why do we even have a Congress when Mitch decides everything anyway?

When you have a governing body conceived of by rich, white, slave owners, it is basically a gentlemen's club. So it just runs on 'tradition' and 'decorum.'

The rules of the senate should be codified and allow any coalition of 10% of the Senate to bring a bill for a discussion/vote.

[In2ition]

Well, can't say I'm at all surprised.

$2,000 checks sputter after McConnell blocks Dems
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/2 ... ems-451918

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday stymied Democrats’ long-shot bid to immediately increase direct stimulus payments to $2,000, leaving the fate of bigger checks in limbo as this Congress comes to a close at the end of the week.

Well, I was wrong. What was his reason? Did he say something like, "Screw those peasants! Let them eat cake!"? Was it solely because of the $2,000?

[In2ition]

Could this be it? https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12 ... hecks.html

[Indy]

Could this be it? https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12 ... hecks.html

Could it be? Of course it is. It is dirty politics. He had an option to vote on a very clean bill that it is strictly amending the 600 to 2000, but instead wants to find a way to add poison pills or pork to it. He is putting politics above people.

[In2ition]

Could this be it? https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12 ... hecks.html

Could it be? Of course it is. It is dirty politics. He had an option to vote on a very clean bill that it is strictly amending the 600 to 2000, but instead wants to find a way to add poison pills or pork to it. He is putting politics above people.

True, wouldn't be nice to get all the dumb @$$ sh!t out of the bill, while also increasing the money? BTW, I think they need to repeal Section 230 to these platforms though.

[Indy]

Could this be it? https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12 ... hecks.html

Could it be? Of course it is. It is dirty politics. He had an option to vote on a very clean bill that it is strictly amending the 600 to 2000, but instead wants to find a way to add poison pills or pork to it. He is putting politics above people.

True, wouldn't be nice to get all the dumb @$$ sh!t out of the bill, while also increasing the money? BTW, I think they need to repeal Section 230 to these platforms though.

There is no dumb shit in the bill to go from 600 to 2000. And the other dumb shit in the original is because it is a general spending bill. With all of the stuff that is in those typically, and then a tack on for the covid relief.

Can you tell me why 230 should be removed from your perspective? It would require so much more censorship if it is removed, so I am curious as to why a republican would be in favor of additional censorship on free speech.

[In2ition]

Could this be it? https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12 ... hecks.html

Could it be? Of course it is. It is dirty politics. He had an option to vote on a very clean bill that it is strictly amending the 600 to 2000, but instead wants to find a way to add poison pills or pork to it. He is putting politics above people.

True, wouldn't be nice to get all the dumb @$$ sh!t out of the bill, while also increasing the money? BTW, I think they need to repeal Section 230 to these platforms though.

There is no dumb shit in the bill to go from 600 to 2000. And the other dumb shit in the original is because it is a general spending bill. With all of the stuff that is in those typically, and then a tack on for the covid relief.

Can you tell me why 230 should be removed from your perspective? It would require so much more censorship if it is removed, so I am curious as to why a republican would be in favor of additional censorship on free speech.

As of right now, the Big Tech companies of Youtube, Google, Facebook, & Twitter are all acting like publishers and doing a great deal of censorship as it is. If they are the so called public forum and public square, they shouldn't be allowed to censor everyone that they just don't agree with. It's become politicized, to a detrimental extent. Sure, right now it's mostly Conservatives, but it won't take long before it's anyone that they don't agree with. If they decide that the sky is actually red, you better agree with them. I am not for censorship on free speech at all.

Also, I still think they should have cut out the dumb stuff from the original draft. I think we call nearly all agree that some of it is just ridiculous and never should have been in there in the first place.

[Indy]

I am not sure you understand what 230 is all about. It literally lets online 'publishers' not be liable for their users speech. If they were liable for it, they would have to vet everything before it gets published like an op ed article in a real print newspaper. So there would be *far more* censoring than there currently is. If Twitter was liable for tweets, they would have a lot more than "This claim is not supported by facts" or other stupid language they use. You would submit a tweet and get a response back that says "thank you for your tweet. Our fact checkers and editors will review and get back to you in 3-5 business days."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230