Game Day: Suns (27-8) @ Hornets (19-17), Sun 1/2/22

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Re: Game Day: Suns (27-8) @ Hornets (19-17), Sun 1/2/21

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JeremyG wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:43 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:41 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:37 pm
carey wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:33 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:27 pm
The Suns can't trade Smith if he maintains and builds on this form for the rest of the season.

Holy shit. That comment was before he detonated on Plumlee.
Nah, he's in a trade package for another wing defender / shooter as soon as Ayton & McGee are healthy.
No, we need a rebounding PF that can play next to Ayton. Maybe Smith himself can do that, though.
I strongly disagree. Typically "rebounding PF's" can't shoot, and that'll hinder Ayton's offensive opportunities.

This team doesn't need someone to play with Ayton, they need someone to play behind him.
We need someone to help Ayton with rebounding, especially when Ayton is defending the shooter. McGee is our second best rebounder but he can't really play with Ayton.
I haven’t noticed it as a major issue this year. We’re not benching Crowder though and I wouldn’t sacrifice the shooting/defense of Crowder just for a rebounder.

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Re: Game Day: Suns (27-8) @ Hornets (19-17), Sun 1/2/21

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Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:40 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:36 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:32 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:27 pm
The Suns can't trade Smith if he maintains and builds on this form for the rest of the season.

Holy shit. That comment was before he detonated on Plumlee.
At the very least he’s created real trade value. If we haven’t burned the bridge I’d like to keep him around and still re-sign him, but if we do turn him into a real piece that can help us win the title, I won’t complain. But ya, we can’t dump him for like a Torrey Craig now. Gotta be a bigger piece coming back.
He's playing exactly like the type of guy they need, a small ball Center.

I can't deny that I'm a bit perplexed as to why he wasn't given a real opportunity until now. At a minimum, he's a rebounding machine and that's probably the weakest part of this team.
True, but he’s doing it in the regular season. I still think I’d take the chance to move him if the right trade came around. Would you trust to put him in in say a game 7 where Ayton/McGee are getting beat on switches by a small ball lineup and we need another option?
Maybe. He's pretty clearly a smart enough player to understand defensive concepts, and he doesn't seem to have a ton of trouble staying in front of smaller guys.

The Warriors and Clippers are really the only teams that fit the profile of teams that can play McGee or Frank off of the court, and I kinda think the Suns should prioritize shooting and creation over size if Smith is going to play this well.
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Oubre with 15 off the bench for Charlotte.
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Biyombo 11 points, 7 rebounds
Stix 17 points, 12 rebounds
Booker 24 points, 7 rebounds
Paul 7 points, 15 assists
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Who would have guessed that 2022 would start off with Smith and Biyombo playing like they're Ayton and McGee!
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Shamet ought to save some of these for the moments that matter.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (27-8) @ Hornets (19-17), Sun 1/2/21

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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:47 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:40 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:36 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:32 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:27 pm
The Suns can't trade Smith if he maintains and builds on this form for the rest of the season.

Holy shit. That comment was before he detonated on Plumlee.
At the very least he’s created real trade value. If we haven’t burned the bridge I’d like to keep him around and still re-sign him, but if we do turn him into a real piece that can help us win the title, I won’t complain. But ya, we can’t dump him for like a Torrey Craig now. Gotta be a bigger piece coming back.
He's playing exactly like the type of guy they need, a small ball Center.

I can't deny that I'm a bit perplexed as to why he wasn't given a real opportunity until now. At a minimum, he's a rebounding machine and that's probably the weakest part of this team.
True, but he’s doing it in the regular season. I still think I’d take the chance to move him if the right trade came around. Would you trust to put him in in say a game 7 where Ayton/McGee are getting beat on switches by a small ball lineup and we need another option?
Maybe. He's pretty clearly a smart enough player to understand defensive concepts, and he doesn't seem to have a ton of trouble staying in front of smaller guys.

The Warriors and Clippers are really the only teams that fit the profile of teams that can play McGee or Frank off of the court, and I kinda think the Suns should prioritize shooting and creation over size if Smith is going to play this well.
Ya that’s more what I’m interested in anyways. I know we’re struggling for big men right now, but with Ayton, McGee, Frank, Jalen, and now Biyombo…plus if Saric ever comes back we’re loaded at the 5. Wings are what we need more of.

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Suns thrashing the Hornets on the boards, 43-26
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41-point lead
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And FF thought we were gonna lose…

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Payne - 14, Shamet - 15.
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Why is CP3 playing in the 4th when we’re up 43?

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Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:55 pm
Why is CP3 playing in the 4th when we’re up 43?
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Did EJ really say 7 minutes is a long time to close out a 40 point lead?

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Suns putting in the JV ...
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Hornets broadcast discussing the authenticity of Emanuel Terry's uniform numbers like it's a UFO sighting.
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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:03 pm
Hornets broadcast discussing the authenticity of Emanuel Terry's uniform numbers like it's a UFO sighting.
Given Charlotte's play tonight, they need to find an interesting subject to them ... :lol: :lol:
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Well I hope we don’t ever have to play these guys real minutes, haha. Not exactly nba talent out there

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Re: Game Day: Suns (27-8) @ Hornets (19-17), Sun 1/2/21

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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:03 pm
Hornets broadcast discussing the authenticity of Emanuel Terry's uniform numbers like it's a UFO sighting.
They basically had nothing nice to say about anyone on the Suns that wasn't associated with North Carolina in some way.
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carey wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:19 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:03 pm
Hornets broadcast discussing the authenticity of Emanuel Terry's uniform numbers like it's a UFO sighting.
They basically had nothing nice to say about anyone on the Suns that wasn't associated with North Carolina in some way.

That's fine. We're here to burn their village to the ground. They shouldn't enjoy it.
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