Around the League: Week 11 (12/27 - 1/2)
Re: Around the League: Week 11 (12/27 - 1/2)
Really liking? Maybe even Giddey about him?
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I am still high on Christian Wood playing the 4 next to Ayton. This article thinks he is worth two first rounders essentially. Now that Stix is breaking out and we no longer have dibs on him, a Wood for Stix, Dario, and a late 1st rounder looks reasonable to me.
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Re: Around the League: Week 11 (12/27 - 1/2)
I thought he started lifting after he kept getting beat up by the Pistons, before his first three-peat.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:48 pmThe thing is, Lebron has been to 10 Finals primarily for two reasons:
2. He lives in an era where much more is known about sports medicine and fitness. In MJ's day he literally didn't start lifting weights until after his first three-peat, that's how ignorant the conventional wisdom was back then.
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Re: Around the League: Week 11 (12/27 - 1/2)
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Same. And after watching all of Jordan's career, and all of Lebron's up to this point, I can't say which had the better peak as a player. Lebron's win against the Warriors was the best performance I have ever seen. The Cavs had no business winning that series...
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Agree. James willed that team to the championship against the Warriors. An epic effort.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:15 pmSame. And after watching all of Jordan's career, and all of Lebron's up to this point, I can't say which had the better peak as a player. Lebron's win against the Warriors was the best performance I have ever seen. The Cavs had no business winning that series...
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James may be a great talent, but he has degraded the NBA product while being in the league. From the decision and only playing with multiple allstars to flopping and bitching about every call against him or anyone on his team. He will not leave the league a better place when he retires.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:52 pmAgree. James willed that team to the championship against the Warriors. An epic effort.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:15 pmSame. And after watching all of Jordan's career, and all of Lebron's up to this point, I can't say which had the better peak as a player. Lebron's win against the Warriors was the best performance I have ever seen. The Cavs had no business winning that series...
And don’t get me started on his “activism “.
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There is no "may" about it. You can argue if it he the best or the 2nd best player of the last 40-50 years, but there is no denying his greatness.SunsRIt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:24 pmJames may be a great talent, but he has degraded the NBA product while being in the league. From the decision and only playing with multiple allstars to flopping and bitching about every call against him or anyone on his team. He will not leave the league a better place when he retires.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:52 pmAgree. James willed that team to the championship against the Warriors. An epic effort.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:15 pmSame. And after watching all of Jordan's career, and all of Lebron's up to this point, I can't say which had the better peak as a player. Lebron's win against the Warriors was the best performance I have ever seen. The Cavs had no business winning that series...
And don’t get me started on his “activism “.
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Re: Around the League: Week 11 (12/27 - 1/2)
He is the best player to ever play the game. But nowhere near the greatest. Would still rather have Jordan, Magic, a young Bird or even Kobe if my life depended on it. At least those guys would fight till the end. Not assess their prospects in the 4th quarter and throw in the towel.
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Maybe you forgot about Kobe giving up on his team in the playoffs against us? He quit at half time.MightyMoog wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:28 pmHe is the best player to ever play the game. But nowhere near the greatest. Would still rather have Jordan, Magic, a young Bird or even Kobe if my life depended on it. At least those guys would fight till the end. Not assess their prospects in the 4th quarter and throw in the towel.
I think more than anyone, Kobe has been given a status higher than his actual on-court performance based on his attitude (and his untimely death).
Re: Around the League: Week 11 (12/27 - 1/2)
Was he just supposed to continue playing for Dan Gilbert and the shitty team the Cavs put around him or was it only OK if he left to a bad/mediocre team in the interest of being "fair?"SunsRIt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:24 pmJames may be a great talent, but he has degraded the NBA product while being in the league. From the decision and only playing with multiple allstars to flopping and bitching about every call against him or anyone on his team. He will not leave the league a better place when he retires.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:52 pmAgree. James willed that team to the championship against the Warriors. An epic effort.Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:15 pmSame. And after watching all of Jordan's career, and all of Lebron's up to this point, I can't say which had the better peak as a player. Lebron's win against the Warriors was the best performance I have ever seen. The Cavs had no business winning that series...
And don’t get me started on his “activism “.
It's also a little ridiculous to say things like "If you can just jump to any team you want every few years, of course you'll have more overall trips to the Finals" (sorry, Mori) as if there aren't maybe 2-3 players per generation that this applies to.
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Ya the arguments people have to come up with to tear down LeBron are pretty laughable.
Jordan is the only player in his stratosphere in the history of the nba. Maybe Kareem still played his prime prime in a watered down league so the stats are probably a little inflated.
It’s Jordan and LeBron, then everybody else. Better at their peak is debatable to me…Better career isn’t really even close. LeBron is going to have like a decade longer of elite play than Jordan.
Jordan is the only player in his stratosphere in the history of the nba. Maybe Kareem still played his prime prime in a watered down league so the stats are probably a little inflated.
It’s Jordan and LeBron, then everybody else. Better at their peak is debatable to me…Better career isn’t really even close. LeBron is going to have like a decade longer of elite play than Jordan.
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This is starting to remind me of the Kevin Durant debate here last season. Some people can't get past off the court stuff like free agency and I don't understand it at all.
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True if you don’t like the person or choices they make, you’ll probably try to find a way to not like the playerFlagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:09 pmThis is starting to remind me of the Kevin Durant debate here last season. Some people can't get past off the court stuff like free agency and I don't understand it at all.
Re: Around the League: Week 11 (12/27 - 1/2)
In 8 years he never had a 0 turnover game?
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Well when he played 30 minutes…Last actual time was 5 years ago
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Oof, this is bad. Just gotta give the Kings the ball here.
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Those officials need to be suspended for a game. There's no reason for them to screw that up so badly.
Edit: Turns out the officials had the rule correct, but wow, was that a huge serving of home cooking by the game clock operator. I suppose that person needs to be held accountable.
Edit: Turns out the officials had the rule correct, but wow, was that a huge serving of home cooking by the game clock operator. I suppose that person needs to be held accountable.
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Gentry can't catch a break