FBI raids Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort

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Any regular US citizen would be locked up for life for stealing this stuff. They found some of the top secret files in Trumps desk of his personal office. He went through the stuff personally and picked out which stuff he was going to send back and which stuff he was going to keep after they demanded the return. Trump knew what he had, refused to give it back and hid most in a storage area that he wouldn’t allow the National Archives to look at when they first came.

Busted for paying off porn star before election to hide activity. His lawyer goes to jail for Trumps crime.
Extorting the Ukraine to get at Biden. Gets impeached.
Attempting to neuter the Postal Service to win election. His henchman is busted and they stop destroying more sorting machines machines in time.
Trump org indicted for fraud. CFO convicted. Ongoing…
Telling state officials to “find him enough votes” to win election after the votes were already counted.
Accusing a lot of innocent people and businesses of fraud knowing he is lying. Dominion suing. Election workers stalked by MAGA.
Fake elector scheme orchestrated by him
Jan 6 riot orchestrated by him.
Stealing secret files and lying about them. “They were planted!” “I declassified them” “I cooperated fully with the government on this” “They are mine!” “Obama took a bunch of files too!”

A criminal can only slither out of trouble so many times.

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This thread ... Just imagine how many people were in the same room as documents containing some of our most classified secrets, unprotected.


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Fuck. Who could defend this guy?


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^ That seems bad. He also seems to have gone out of his way to mix his personal papers with classified documents.


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Even Fox is raking Trump over the coals about this stuff. The whole "Trump declassified the documents" thing is dumb and also bad. Barr here points out that it would be VERY BAD if he actually had done that. You shouldn't just take boxes of super secret classified info and make it public. That is a huge compromise of national security.


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Ohhhh, right. So the documents you didn't steal from the White House, that were planted, that you already returned when asked, that were declassified anyway, and that were in boxes and NOT strewn about on the floor as in a certain viral photo, ... were meant to go in your Presidential library, which does not exist. Got it.


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Trump-appointed judge grants special master to review the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago.


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Normally I would just say F whatever Trump is asking for. 99.999% of the time he is just trying to delay the process and give his base some red meat. In this case I believe that is exactly what he is doing but, we as a country seem to be perched on the edge of a precipice and I think it is important at this time to do this by the book just like they have already done. Giving Trump his Master isn’t going to help him get out of his troubles. Like most of his moves, it will probably bite him in the ass. It will give him and his base one more thing they can’t claim fraud on. They can’t claim he didn’t get his Master. They can’t claim the judge is biased. He was appointed by Trump. They tried to claim the FBI was all corrupt and then later walked it back to saying it was just the leadership at the top but, the head of the FBI was appointed by Trump.

Everything is a chess game to Trump even though I doubt he knows how to play chess. Maybe everything is a checkers game to Trump. One other trait Trump has is everything is a battle to the death with him. Slight him in any way and you become his enemy for life who he will vow revenge on unless you take a knee, kiss his small hand and vow to be his loyal servant. Any slight against him will be met with an escalation X’s 10.

Trump has been calling the Media the “Enemy of the State” for some time. Of course he has been claiming the Dems were all corrupt for some time. He has been claiming various US institutions were all corrupt for some time. All the non Maga Republicans are RINO’s and corrupt of course. It’s easier to say Maga considers anything not Maga to be corrupt and fraudulent.

Biden has kept out of the fight for the most part until he recently stepped up his verbal attacks on Maga after they started threatening the FBI and others connected to the Maro Lago raid. Trump Congressional pawns like Graham have called for riots in the streets of Trump is convicted. In a couple of televised broadcasts Biden has come out calling Maga a “threat to Democracy “. Trump invoked his escalation clause and now calls the FBI and the DOJ “vicious monsters” and Biden the “Enemy of the People” proving Biden’s point.

The mid terms outcome and whether Trump is indicted will be the tip of the precipice. Where will America go? I am hoping they choose to abandon Trumps destructive path and not choose to tear it all down like Maga wants. If America shuns Maga and they loose bigly Maga will claim fraud of course. If they win bigly Maga will be able to shut down anything that gets in the way of Trump becoming King of America.

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By the way. I guess I will be forced to become a Twitter member since most of the stuff posted her is now Twitter feeds. When I click on a Twitter feed it let’s me read a little and then demands I sign up to read any more of the article and puts a big banner across the page stopping me from reading anything.

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Speaking of the FBI raiding homes in Miami. Totally unrelated to Trump I’m sure.

Federal agents raid the homes of Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... ekselberg/
The FBI, Homeland Security Investigations and the New York Police Department were seen searching two New York properties linked to the billionaire ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, NBC New York reported.

The agents and detectives were spotted carrying boxes during the search of properties in Manhattan and Southampton, N.Y., and another search is reportedly also underway in Miami.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-raids- ... 1634673162
The Federal Bureau of Investigation on Tuesday conducted raids of residences in Washington and New York owned by the family of Russian metals tycoon Oleg Deripaska, who figured prominently in the post-2016 investigations of Trump campaign officials, FBI spokeswomen and a spokesman for Mr. Deripaska said.

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Nodack wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:31 pm
By the way. I guess I will be forced to become a Twitter member since most of the stuff posted her is now Twitter feeds. When I click on a Twitter feed it let’s me read a little and then demands I sign up to read any more of the article and puts a big banner across the page stopping me from reading anything.
Do you mean the actual tweets, or the articles they link to?
The links go out to other websites, so it shouldn't be any different.

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I can click on the link, go to Twitter and read the main thing I guess but, if I start going down any thread below it it tells me to log in or sign up placing a big banner across the page obstructing the page.

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Trump says in Fox "News" interview that there "doesn't have to be a process" for declassifying documents, that the President can declassify a document "just by thinking about it."


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This isn't about the FBI raid, but, the NY state case against Trump and his family for their financial fraud is also being referred to the federal level, sending information to the IRS. I think his ass is going down.


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Interesting.


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A new story is out alleging that Trump clearly knew he was taking classified info out of the White House to his Bedminster club in NJ:



This thread has some good discussion about it:


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