Suns News: Week 12 1/12-1/18

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Usually school athletes have insurance through the school.
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I get the impression that there's something really big in the works. I know that some of you disdain so-called "insiders" at boards, but Traxxe has been reliable in some respects in the past, and admits that he might not be as far in the know as he used to be:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtop ... #p42350346

And the tweets by Stein mentioning Reggie Bullock to the Suns as part of the Rivers move to Boston seem to indicate that there's something in the works and that the 3pg experiment is at an end.

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https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/555808377079480320 Huh? Why would we want this guy? We're massively overloaded at the guard spots and Bullock is scoring 2ppg on the Clips right now. I don't get it.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2528 ... ie-bullock

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I came to post about Bullock as well. I'm not sure what the Suns interest is. What does he give that Goodwin doesn't for example? I guess we'll see.
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He's a shooter with good size, could be a good defender too. McD said it...next guy up. I think they anticipate Green leaving so we'll need to replace his shooting.

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He was a solid prospect out of UNC, but I don't see the point of acquiring him.

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What would Goodwin have to do with Bullock? Different players. I'd be more concerned with how it would affect TJ.

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Bullock is a jump-shooter; Goodwin is a slasher.

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ShelC wrote: McD said it...next guy up. I think they anticipate Green leaving so we'll need to replace his shooting.
I hope that's not the rationale. You got three perimeter players on the roster that don't get any minutes, and that's not including Zoran. You got the other Bogdanovic overseas, and have the potentially two picks in the upcoming draft. No need to trade for a marginal prospect in some attempt to prepare for losing Gerald Green.

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I'm disappointed to hear that we are actively shopping Goran and Green. I get it, but I would much rather have Goran than Bledsoe, and much rather have Bledsoe/Goran or Goran/IT than Bledsoe/IT. That is a bad combination, IMO.

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INFORMER wrote:
ShelC wrote: McD said it...next guy up. I think they anticipate Green leaving so we'll need to replace his shooting.
I hope that's not the rationale. You got three perimeter players on the roster that don't get any minutes, and that's not including Zoran. You got the other Bogdanovic overseas, and have the potentially two picks in the upcoming draft. No need to trade for a marginal prospect in some attempt to prepare for losing Gerald Green.
I'm a little gobsmacked with this move ...
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...

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They're shopping Goran?!

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Sarver personally re-recruited Goran, so I really question the authenticity of that rumor...
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...

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I hope you are correct. But it also would be a good idea to see what he is worth considering he might not sign here again. Who knows, he could have already told them that.

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Or told them the type of money he expects, and we aren't close.

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Indy: why do you think they're shopping Goran?

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It could be that the Suns are thinking that Goran's going to be expensive and/or difficult to re-sign. There's been an awful lot of smoke, is there fire involved? Perhaps they are just exploring possibilities.

Another possibility is that there's a "canary trap" going on. Selectively leak different rumors to different people, see which ones get leaked, plug the holes.

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I personally think it would be a horrible idea not to keep Goran, I'd rather build a team around him as the PG than Bledsoe. Regarding the Morri, Markieff is an excellent starting PF and is perhaps an excellent complement to Len -- but I think that Hornacek is getting sick and tired of their immaturity. Everyone else we've talked about.

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Some qualifications about the rumors:
For those of you who haven't been on the board for years, or if you just need a little refresher on Traxxe's "window", here's a little info from the past. In short, he's never claimed to be an insider.

6/26/09-
Hey, I'm not an insider. I hear what some journalists hear is all. I might have a bag of lies from Front Offices, sometimes I get news a little early and sometimes I get good bits of useful info. I've said all I've heard on this. I don't have a big secret or anything.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=918873&p=19965003#p19965003

6/26/09-
I've never claimed to be an insider mind you. I just have connections in the journalism field...

... if Tastic wants to pm me his email I'll email him the small connections I have.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=918873&p=19964382#p19964382

7/02/09-
I qualify my statements that I'm not a great insider. I just am in a position hear things. But I can stop. It's no big deal to me. I'm wrong sometimes too. Lot of BS info gets tossed about to people with connections, etc.

Anyway, I just post what i hear. Don't take it as fact.

Well Traxxe, it sounds like whatever you are providing then is approximately at the level of news sources - like you hear it approximately when it is going to be released. Since that's the case I don't have a problem with it as long as you distinguish between your speculation and what you hear.
-Miklo (forum mod)
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=921641&p=20042078#p20042078

8/13/09-
I am not an insider. I hear things that spill out of the organization from time to time a bit ahead of other peeps. I'm just saying what I hear. Take it for what it is worth.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=937138&p=20528092#p20528092

2/17/10-
...I wil post as a fan as I mentioned earlier but didn't follow through with. As for my contacts, I've always said they were open to failure. Since I'm done here with inside info I'll open up and say generically that my brother is an ESPN sports writer and another person in my 'family' is engaged to a Suns reporter.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=988047&p=22377818#p22377818

So, he's had a connection to Suns info by way of his brother being an ESPN writer (Dallas based, I believe) and via someone in his "family" marrying a Suns reporter...no info has come from a source inside the FO.

With NT's latest post, his info coming from inside the press have grown even less substantial (or legit?) by his own admission.
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtop ... #p42351768

And the latest:
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

The Suns are active trying to trade at the moment. I know some of the teams they have reached out to. I know that there are only a few untouchables on the roster I listed earlier.

I doubt they trade the twins unless we get something great back. I doubt we trade Dragic unless we get value. But I just don't know. I don't know if the stuff I started hearing this morning is or isn't tied to what is coming out in the press now.

I just know I was told today (this morning) the Suns are trying to make moves. My information is always second hand too so I don't know to what degree it is massaged in the process.

Think of my information as a compass that can provide general direction. Not specifics. I haven't gotten specifics in a couple of ears. The org doesn't give out info like they used to do. That's a good thing.

The Suns don't see themselves making the playoffs this year and they are trying to change that.

I am stating what I have heard.
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtop ... &start=820

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Traxxe has been "verified" by the mods over there. Those in the know say he's legit. He's not around all that often, and maybe there's something connecting the emergence of these rumors with the Bullock rumors - which, if you look at Coro's feed, reflect a very sudden change.

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