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I think it is very foolish to ask the employees who they want their boss to be, and let that be your deciding factor on a hiring decision.

Exactly. Especially a roster as young and inexperienced as ours.

Bring in some assistants with proven abilities in player development. Let Watson be the guy who holds the community together.

Indy wrote:I think it is very foolish to ask the employees who they want their boss to be, and let that be your deciding factor on a hiring decision.

Why not let the inmates run the asylum? It wasn't working the other way.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Indy wrote:I think it is very foolish to ask the employees who they want their boss to be, and let that be your deciding factor on a hiring decision.

Why not let the inmates run the asylum? It wasn't working the other way.

It just seems so typical. Really nobody here is surprised it played out this way, which just means the FO did what we expected them to do. So we should expect similar results. Ad nauseam.

Indy wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Indy wrote:I think it is very foolish to ask the employees who they want their boss to be, and let that be your deciding factor on a hiring decision.

Why not let the inmates run the asylum? It wasn't working the other way.

It just seems so typical. Really nobody here is surprised it played out this way, which just means the FO did what we expected them to do. So we should expect similar results. Ad nauseam.

If it ain't broke.. Ah fuck it. When is the draft again?

Indy wrote:I think it is very foolish to ask the employees who they want their boss to be, and let that be your deciding factor on a hiring decision.

If all your employees love a particular boss, and they really work hard for him, that might influence you to promote him. In fact, it would be foolish NOT to consider it. After all, that particular response in your employees is what you are looking for in the hire.

You don't make a hire because on journeyman pf says he wants to play for the guy. But when EVERYONE raves about him and says he is the guy, it would be absolute arrogance not to take that into consideration.

What would you rather they had done? Names?

JCSunsfan wrote:

Indy wrote:I think it is very foolish to ask the employees who they want their boss to be, and let that be your deciding factor on a hiring decision.

If all your employees love a particular boss, and they really work hard for him, that might influence you to promote him. In fact, it would be foolish NOT to consider it. After all, that particular response in your employees is what you are looking for in the hire.

You don't make a hire because on journeyman pf says he wants to play for the guy. But when EVERYONE raves about him and says he is the guy, it would be absolute arrogance not to take that into consideration.

What would you rather they had done? Names?

I think most people would rather they had gone through a process. It's a little hard to believe the best possible candidate happened to already be in the building. Until you open up the position and start interviewing for it, you can't know who would be interested and who would emerge as a strong candidate. Now Watson may have ended up still being the best guy for the job, which would be great, but it would be easier to believe if he'd had to beat out some competition before being hired.

Gladiator wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

Indy wrote:I think it is very foolish to ask the employees who they want their boss to be, and let that be your deciding factor on a hiring decision.

If all your employees love a particular boss, and they really work hard for him, that might influence you to promote him. In fact, it would be foolish NOT to consider it. After all, that particular response in your employees is what you are looking for in the hire.

You don't make a hire because on journeyman pf says he wants to play for the guy. But when EVERYONE raves about him and says he is the guy, it would be absolute arrogance not to take that into consideration.

What would you rather they had done? Names?

I think most people would rather they had gone through a process. It's a little hard to believe the best possible candidate happened to already be in the building. Until you open up the position and start interviewing for it, you can't know who would be interested and who would emerge as a strong candidate. Now Watson may have ended up still being the best guy for the job, which would be great, but it would be easier to believe if he'd had to beat out some competition before being hired.

Ding. Ding. Ding.

Rinse, lather, repeat.

If he was really the best candidate, wouldn't that have been evident after an interview process?

Would it really have hurt to interview a few people?

This team cuts too many corners. Half-assed management. Horrible.

If the gossip about us contacting Villanova's coach is true, then I could think that some sort of process went trough. But you can't have an hiring process if none of your candidates accepts to be a part of it.

Is Watson the best candidate by default ?

Aztec Sunsfan wrote:If the gossip about us contacting Villanova's coach is true, then I could think that some sort of process went trough. But you can't have an hiring process if none of your candidates accepts to be a part of it.

Is Watson the best candidate by default ?

It is very possible that nobody wanted to interview for the job here.

If you pay them, they will come.

If they are represented by Rich Paul, they will come.

Gladiator wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

Indy wrote:I think it is very foolish to ask the employees who they want their boss to be, and let that be your deciding factor on a hiring decision.

If all your employees love a particular boss, and they really work hard for him, that might influence you to promote him. In fact, it would be foolish NOT to consider it. After all, that particular response in your employees is what you are looking for in the hire.

You don't make a hire because on journeyman pf says he wants to play for the guy. But when EVERYONE raves about him and says he is the guy, it would be absolute arrogance not to take that into consideration.

What would you rather they had done? Names?

I think most people would rather they had gone through a process. It's a little hard to believe the best possible candidate happened to already be in the building. Until you open up the position and start interviewing for it, you can't know who would be interested and who would emerge as a strong candidate. Now Watson may have ended up still being the best guy for the job, which would be great, but it would be easier to believe if he'd had to beat out some competition before being hired.

If you have a bad one and you fire him. And then your temp guy in his place is exactly what you have been looking for, you go ahead and hire him. Again, I am OK with this hire, not sure if Watson is the guy long term for this team. But I think a sham interview process is pointless. Besides, its not like they are interviewing strangers. Every potential candidate is already well-known and McD already has relationships with them. They have been looking at people since January.

Okay. We need to stop with this false idea that no one wanted a NBA head coaching job. Don't let the front office off that easily. I agree that the top tier coaches who have their choice of franchises would have us very low on the list of jobs they wanted.

The thing is there are only 30 of these jobs in the world and their are always qualified people dying for even an interview. You could easily throw out a number like at least 50% of the assistants in the league would automatically accept any head coaching job offered to them. That percentage is pretty conservative. That isn't even including any college or foreign coaches.

Watson was fine finishing up this season but he didn't jump out as perfect for the job. Do people honestly believe we just happened to have the best coach hiding 3 assistants down on the bench? It would only be a sham of an interview process if they didn't care about getting the best coach for the job. I guess you are right it probably would have been a sham.

It is such a disservice to the team and the fans by not caring. It is backlash from all the player drama this season. The guys want him so they will be happy if we rehire him. Do they not remember how shitty we were earlier this season with Hornacek? Do they not remember how the players claimed to love him and were pissed when the front office fired him? All while playing like absolute shit on the court. These players in particular have already shown that their opinion on the coach should mean jack shit.

Watson will probably be okay but is that what we really want? Just okay? We should have been looking for the best development coach we could find.

EDC wrote:Okay. We need to stop with this false idea that no one wanted a NBA head coaching job. Don't let the front office off that easily. I agree that the top tier coaches who have their choice of franchises would have us very low on the list of jobs they wanted.

The thing is there are only 30 of these jobs in the world and their are always qualified people dying for even an interview. You could easily throw out a number like at least 50% of the assistants in the league would automatically accept any head coaching job offered to them. That percentage is pretty conservative. That isn't even including any college or foreign coaches.

Watson was fine finishing up this season but he didn't jump out as perfect for the job. Do people honestly believe we just happened to have the best coach hiding 3 assistants down on the bench? It would only be a sham of an interview process if they didn't care about getting the best coach for the job. I guess you are right it probably would have been a sham.

It is such a disservice to the team and the fans by not caring. It is backlash from all the player drama this season. The guys want him so they will be happy if we rehire him. Do they not remember how shitty we were earlier this season with Hornacek? Do they not remember how the players claimed to love him and were pissed when the front office fired him? All while playing like absolute shit on the court. These players in particular have already shown that their opinion on the coach should mean jack shit.

Watson will probably be okay but is that what we really want? Just okay? We should have been looking for the best development coach we could find.

Saying nobody wanted it isn't exactly what I meant. I mean, if they were thinking about going after a well-respected, experienced coach, maybe none of them wanted to even interview. Maybe they have looked at what has happened over the past 8 years, looked at our owner, looked at our roster, and thought several of the other jobs were attractive, but not ours. I don't think that is completely unbelievable.

But I agree that it is ridiculous to think that the best available and interested coach in the world was sitting 3 guys deep on the assistant bench of the 2015-16 Phoenix Suns.

EDC wrote:Okay. We need to stop with this false idea that no one wanted a NBA head coaching job. Don't let the front office off that easily. I agree that the top tier coaches who have their choice of franchises would have us very low on the list of jobs they wanted.

The thing is there are only 30 of these jobs in the world and their are always qualified people dying for even an interview. You could easily throw out a number like at least 50% of the assistants in the league would automatically accept any head coaching job offered to them. That percentage is pretty conservative. That isn't even including any college or foreign coaches.

Watson was fine finishing up this season but he didn't jump out as perfect for the job. Do people honestly believe we just happened to have the best coach hiding 3 assistants down on the bench? It would only be a sham of an interview process if they didn't care about getting the best coach for the job. I guess you are right it probably would have been a sham.

It is such a disservice to the team and the fans by not caring. It is backlash from all the player drama this season. The guys want him so they will be happy if we rehire him. Do they not remember how shitty we were earlier this season with Hornacek? Do they not remember how the players claimed to love him and were pissed when the front office fired him? All while playing like absolute shit on the court. These players in particular have already shown that their opinion on the coach should mean jack shit.

Watson will probably be okay but is that what we really want? Just okay? We should have been looking for the best development coach we could find.

Phenomenal post. Could not agree more. You said it better than I was able to. The odds that Watson HAPPENS to be the best NBA head coach in the world for us are ludicrous. The fact that we didn't even try looking for anybody else, or even waiting until after the playoffs to see if any other talented coaches or assistants shook free, is infuriating. Inexcusable.