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Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:09 pm
by JCSunsfan
OE32 wrote:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Listening to Doug and Wolf right now, If G is bpa at 4, do you take him? McD, YES. Blah.
Been talking to Kings fans elsewhere... #13 + Knight + Tucker for Gay + #8? Take the guard at 4; grab Ellenson at 8.
There are about 4 bigs of similar prospects. One of them will be available at #13. Stay put. If we can swing a trade with the Lakers for #2, I would do that. Hoopshype is reporting that they will be shopping that pick for impact veterans. Bledsoe, Chandler, #4 for #2. I would do that. It cleans out the back court some and if Chandler wanted to walk, we would do it for him with no compensation.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:16 pm
by carey
OE32 wrote:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Listening to Doug and Wolf right now, If G is bpa at 4, do you take him? McD, YES. Blah.
Been talking to Kings fans elsewhere... #13 + Knight + Tucker for Gay + #8? Take the guard at 4; grab Ellenson at 8.
Yes, all day every day.

Bledsoe/X
Booker/Murray
Gay/Warren
Ellenson(Chriss/Skal)/Y/Hernangomez
Chandler/Len

Seems like a better balanced team. We would still have a bit of money to spend. In this case I'd see them chasing Ryan Anderson (for better or likely worse,) and a backup PG (no clue who.) You can also slide Gay to 4 and run an interesting small lineup with Warren at SF.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:49 pm
by JCSunsfan
OE32 wrote:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Listening to Doug and Wolf right now, If G is bpa at 4, do you take him? McD, YES. Blah.
Been talking to Kings fans elsewhere... #13 + Knight + Tucker for Gay + #8? Take the guard at 4; grab Ellenson at 8.
YOu know OE. I might do this. Not sure if Rudy Gay is what we want, but he is not a bad trade off for Tucker and Knight. And to move up. Yeah. I might be OK with it.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:50 pm
by The Bobster
Indy wrote:Wrong thread, but should I get this?
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Absolutely.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:58 pm
by Indy
Ha! Dunn has already come out saying he doesn't want to play for Suns or Celts.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:08 pm
by In2ition
It's not like we are all clamoring for Dunn to come to play for the Suns. Heck, I wouldn't want to either if I was a combo guard. They already have 2 shoot first and second pgs, along with a rising star sg that's 3 years younger and better than him.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 5:21 pm
by Superbone
Indy wrote:Ha! Dunn has already come out saying he doesn't want to play for Suns or Celts.
Dunn Dunn Dunn!

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Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 10:02 pm
by pickle
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Man, the lottery is so boring with so few rearrangements. I don't understand why only the top 3 picks are actually in a lottery system. They should have all 13 be drawn. It would be so much more exciting.
This was how the lottery was done the first couple of years it was implemented.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 10:59 pm
by Indy
This makes me want to scream. But I'm the only person awake in my house and it would mean severe consequences to wake my kiddos at this hour on a school night. So I'm going to scream into the abyss of the interwebs.
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Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 11:39 pm
by Superbone
Cluff must be behind it.

I can't wait to get our Westbrook, Paul, Bosh, or Mutumbo.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 12:41 am
by pickle
I was quite depressed with the 4th pick. My preference was 2nd, like everyone else probably, and failing that, 3rd would at least give us a chance at a more upside guy in Bender. After him, the next few top prospects are all guards and that hurts real bad. I have very little confidence in the front office right now, which is not to say that they definitely won't correct this situation by trading one or two of our current starting backcourt, but then I just don't have the confidence that they will do so.

I would definitely move Knight and 4 to get to 2. I don't know that I'd move Bledsoe for that though, and I guess Lakers may not have a lot of interest, given that they kind of have something similar in Lou Williams already, who doesn't turn the ball over nearly as much.

If I'm the Lakers, I'd rather get Ingram than Simmons. They already lack perimeter shooting in a big way and Simmons and Randle are just another minutes headache.

I have absolutely 0 interest in Ellenson at the 4th spot. Or really, any of those big prospects. I can deal with raw potential, but I can't deal with a lack of focus on the court.

Also read that Jaylen Brown completely dug himself a huge hole in the combine's interview sessions by being completely delusional.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 3:04 am
by Flagrant Fowl
pickle wrote:They already lack perimeter shooting in a big way and Simmons and Randle are just another minutes headache.
If it looks like they're likely to draft Simmons, would anyone consider a deal with the Lakers involving Randle for #4?

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 4:32 am
by Split T
I wish Jaylen Brown was good...

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:02 am
by Mori Chu
Indy wrote:Ha! Dunn has already come out saying he doesn't want to play for Suns or Celts.
What a fucker. These players should realize that they're privileged to get to play for any NBA team. I think the NBA should fine players (or agents) who say things like this. It's really bad for the league if a team doesn't feel comfortable picking the player they want to pick.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:22 am
by Indy
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Indy wrote:Ha! Dunn has already come out saying he doesn't want to play for Suns or Celts.
What a fucker. These players should realize that they're privileged to get to play for any NBA team. I think the NBA should fine players (or agents) who say things like this. It's really bad for the league if a team doesn't feel comfortable picking the player they want to pick.
He's a fucker but not Goran?

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:47 am
by England Sun
For me Knight has to be on the block due to his 'not willing to change role' stance at the end of the season.
So any combination of a pick and Knight to move up to 1 or 2 is definitely worth the phone calls and time.
Chandler wants to move on as well so I think there is much to be explored.
Such a shame this draft is not a strong or deep one.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:19 am
by Mori Chu
Indy wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Indy wrote:Ha! Dunn has already come out saying he doesn't want to play for Suns or Celts.
What a fucker. These players should realize that they're privileged to get to play for any NBA team. I think the NBA should fine players (or agents) who say things like this. It's really bad for the league if a team doesn't feel comfortable picking the player they want to pick.
He's a fucker but not Goran?
I don't at all like what Goran did as he was on his way out; talking trash about our team and also possibly doing backdoor negotiating with Miami to trade for him. That's not okay. The reasons I'm not as mad at Goran are:

- he was a great player and good soldier for us for years before that
- he had a bit of reason to be upset, since the team reduced his role and made him feel useless on the team

The above points don't make what he did okay. But it all adds up into the overall equation of how I feel about him. I like the guy, and I'm sad it didn't work here for him. I wish we had treated him better and that he were still here now, instead of the current starting guards we have.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:21 am
by Indy
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Indy wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Indy wrote:Ha! Dunn has already come out saying he doesn't want to play for Suns or Celts.
What a fucker. These players should realize that they're privileged to get to play for any NBA team. I think the NBA should fine players (or agents) who say things like this. It's really bad for the league if a team doesn't feel comfortable picking the player they want to pick.
He's a fucker but not Goran?
I don't at all like what Goran did as he was on his way out; talking trash about our team and also possibly doing backdoor negotiating with Miami to trade for him. That's not okay. The reasons I'm not as mad at Goran are:

- he was a great player and good soldier for us for years before that
- he had a bit of reason to be upset, since the team reduced his role and made him feel useless on the team

The above points don't make what he did okay. But it all adds up into the overall equation of how I feel about him. I like the guy, and I'm sad it didn't work here for him. I wish we had treated him better and that he were still here now, instead of the current starting guards we have.
That sums up about how I feel too.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:11 am
by Hermen
I would add that he was also coming from a career year and was in his contract year, so it's not hard to see why he was pissed. In the end I think that mess worked out well for both sides.
As for rookies I don't think it's a problem they express their wishes. It's up to the teams to be a desirable workplace.

Re: DRAFT LOTTO 2016

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:44 am
by Superbone
Hermen wrote:I would add that he was also coming from a career year and was in his contract year, so it's not hard to see why he was pissed. In the end I think that mess worked out well for both sides.
As for rookies I don't think it's a problem they express their wishes. It's up to the teams to be a desirable workplace.
Except the part that's not desirable is the number of guards and point guards. Doesn't mean that can't change before or after the draft.