Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

[carey]

Aside from our pick, not sure we have what it takes but I'd love to make a run at Paul George. If we wanted to try and make a run the next 2 years with Bleds, Booker and Tyson then PG13 should be a target. Bleds, PG and Tyson are all FAs after 18-19 so it actually works well in the short term. Not sure we'd be contenders but could make a nice run and then reset things. Our 1st, TJ, PJ and maybe Bender? Don't want to give up Bender or Chriss but I feel like we'd have to.

That team isn't much better than Indiana is right now, really. I don't think moves like this make sense. On one hand you do what you can to acquire a star whenever you can. On the other if you're not in the position to pair that star with at least one other one then what's the point? You're just good enough to not be able to rebuild properly. You're bad enough to where you can't seriously compete with the good teams. I still think staying the course is the way to go but I don't actually know anything.

[djy2j]

Paul George wants to win. Even on the shitty Pacers he's in a better position than the Suns because the East is much weaker. I'd love to see George in a Suns uniform but he wouldn't be happy about it.

Because of all the Super teams/ Big 3 etc. Our reputation precedes us. All these superstars don't want anything to do with small market rebuilding teams like the Suns. We're going to be stuck in this rut for awhile until we get lucky enough to develop our own superstar.

[ShelC]

Bledsoe, Booker, George and Tyson is a better than what the Pacers are fielding right now. With George a legit go-to guy and Booker coming on, we could have a great 2/3 combo that can finish games.

Carey, you say stay the course....what course? Are we trying to win now with veterans or dumping and rebuilding through the draft? We still have no idea, it seems. Bledsoe is 27 and his deal is up in 2 years...if Chriss and Bender take 2-3 years to become what we think they can become, where are we?

[djy2j]

Bledsoe, Booker, George and Tyson is a better than what the Pacers are fielding right now. With George a legit go-to guy and Booker coming on, we could have a great 2/3 combo that can finish games.

Oh I totally agree. But where does that put us in the West? Maybe as high as a 7 seed next year if we are lucky? Certainly no playoffs this year. The West is so loaded it's not even funny. The Blazers are the only really disappointing team right now which is keeping that 8 spot open.

[ShelC]

I think as high as 5-6, Memphis is solid but unspectacular and the Thunder are all Westbrook. The Jazz are a nice team but I think we'd have too much firepower for them. My only concern would be coaching.

[Mori Chu]

Aside from our pick, not sure we have what it takes but I'd love to make a run at Paul George. If we wanted to try and make a run the next 2 years with Bleds, Booker and Tyson then PG13 should be a target. Bleds, PG and Tyson are all FAs after 18-19 so it actually works well in the short term. Not sure we'd be contenders but could make a nice run and then reset things. Our 1st, TJ, PJ and maybe Bender? Don't want to give up Bender or Chriss but I feel like we'd have to.

I would absolutely give up a nice package to get PG13. He's an amazing player and still quite young (26!). He is sleep-walking his way to averaging 22/6/3. Would be a huge get for us if we could nab him. I would give up that package you mentioned (1st, TJ/PJ, Bender or Chriss). That seems somewhat fair to both sides.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4251/paul-george

How good would we be with Paul George? Well IMO we'd have the 1-3 spots locked up as well as a veteran 5 in Chandler who doesn't need the ball. The 4 spot would be dicey, but we would presumably have one of Bender or Chriss still there. We could also play Dudley minutes at the 4 as well as maybe PJ there if we retained him. I honestly think that is a huge upgrade over our existing team. Don't discount the effect of adding a superstar like PG to a roster that otherwise is not quite "all there."

[JCSunsfan]

Aside from our pick, not sure we have what it takes but I'd love to make a run at Paul George. If we wanted to try and make a run the next 2 years with Bleds, Booker and Tyson then PG13 should be a target. Bleds, PG and Tyson are all FAs after 18-19 so it actually works well in the short term. Not sure we'd be contenders but could make a nice run and then reset things. Our 1st, TJ, PJ and maybe Bender? Don't want to give up Bender or Chriss but I feel like we'd have to.

I would absolutely give up a nice package to get PG13. He's an amazing player and still quite young (26!). He is sleep-walking his way to averaging 22/6/3. Would be a huge get for us if we could nab him. I would give up that package you mentioned (1st, TJ/PJ, Bender or Chriss). That seems somewhat fair to both sides.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4251/paul-george

How good would we be with Paul George? Well IMO we'd have the 1-3 spots locked up as well as a veteran 5 in Chandler who doesn't need the ball. The 4 spot would be dicey, but we would presumably have one of Bender or Chriss still there. We could also play Dudley minutes at the 4 as well as maybe PJ there if we retained him. I honestly think that is a huge upgrade over our existing team. Don't discount the effect of adding a superstar like PG to a roster that otherwise is not quite "all there."

But could we trade for him and still tank the rest of the season?

[djy2j]

I would love to have PG13. Larry Bird probably insist on adding Ellis as well and want TJ/Chriss or Bender and a 1st. Don't think they'd have as much interest in Chriss since he's similar to Myles Turner. So my guess is Bird propose George, Ellis for Bender, TJ, our first and then We'd have to do the Knight to Orlando and then they'd send Green's expiring to Indiana. Not sure if it would require another pick or what. I don't have a firm grasp on what picks are worth these days after the Cousins debacle.

So yeah I would totally do TJ, Bender, a pick, and Knight for PG13. IS that enough to get it done though?

[Wally_West]

Honestly, I'd prefer to just keep our pick and continue to tank.

[In2ition]

Honestly, I'd prefer to just keep our pick and continue to tank.

I agree. I think they can pursue a big time free agent this summer, get a great pick, and still make a big trade that doesn't include most of the young core. Maybe in a way you need to look like you are trying to strike big right now. It gives the guys around the league confidence that you are trying to be big time and are just a few pieces away. Another thing that's going to help them next year is just another year of maturity and off-season work.

[ShelC]

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/ufa/

Which of those big names are coming here? Curry? Durant? Griffin? Or are we going to max out Gordon Hayward?

[djy2j]

Honestly, I'd prefer to just keep our pick and continue to tank.

I agree. I think they can pursue a big time free agent this summer, get a great pick, and still make a big trade that doesn't include most of the young core. Maybe in a way you need to look like you are trying to strike big right now. It gives the guys around the league confidence that you are trying to be big time and are just a few pieces away. Another thing that's going to help them next year is just another year of maturity and off-season work.

Only problem with that strategy is that there aren't any big name free agents upcoming.

Steph Curry, Durant, Chris Paul are staying put. I'm not a Griffin fan. I don't think he comes to PHX regardless. Heyward is Utah or Boston. We don't need Lowry and the rest are pretty much just role players.

I think if you can get George you have to get him. He's a superstar. The new CBA makes it harder to lure superstars away. We have Bledsoe and Booker. The rest of our young guys are still unknowns.

http://fadeawayworld.com/2016/12/04/nba ... ee-agents/

[djy2j]

Now rumors suggesting we are looking at Derrick Favors. And the BSOS tweet about getting him at the "Vlade" price has me rolling

"We want the Vlade price"

[In2ition]

Honestly, I'd prefer to just keep our pick and continue to tank.

I agree. I think they can pursue a big time free agent this summer, get a great pick, and still make a big trade that doesn't include most of the young core. Maybe in a way you need to look like you are trying to strike big right now. It gives the guys around the league confidence that you are trying to be big time and are just a few pieces away. Another thing that's going to help them next year is just another year of maturity and off-season work.

Only problem with that strategy is that there aren't any big name free agents upcoming.

Steph Curry, Durant, Chris Paul are staying put. I'm not a Griffin fan. I don't think he comes to PHX regardless. Heyward is Utah or Boston. We don't need Lowry and the rest are pretty much just role players.

I think if you can get George you have to get him. He's a superstar. The new CBA makes it harder to lure superstars away. We have Bledsoe and Booker. The rest of our young guys are still unknowns.

http://fadeawayworld.com/2016/12/04/nba ... ee-agents/

You're probably right. I think Paul George is fantastic and a perfect compliment to Booker. I tend to believe that the Suns need a couple players as good or better than Bledsoe and Booker, not just one. I'm still not totally sold on Bledsoe being the long term solution at pg, but you can't deny that he's getting better and better and putting up great numbers right now. I'm still waiting for him to lift up the level of everyone else and make everyone else better. That might take a pick or two this year along with some of the young bigs to mature a little more and make a jump.

[djy2j]

Honestly, I'd prefer to just keep our pick and continue to tank.

I agree. I think they can pursue a big time free agent this summer, get a great pick, and still make a big trade that doesn't include most of the young core. Maybe in a way you need to look like you are trying to strike big right now. It gives the guys around the league confidence that you are trying to be big time and are just a few pieces away. Another thing that's going to help them next year is just another year of maturity and off-season work.

Only problem with that strategy is that there aren't any big name free agents upcoming.

Steph Curry, Durant, Chris Paul are staying put. I'm not a Griffin fan. I don't think he comes to PHX regardless. Heyward is Utah or Boston. We don't need Lowry and the rest are pretty much just role players.

I think if you can get George you have to get him. He's a superstar. The new CBA makes it harder to lure superstars away. We have Bledsoe and Booker. The rest of our young guys are still unknowns.

http://fadeawayworld.com/2016/12/04/nba ... ee-agents/

You're probably right. I think Paul George is fantastic and a perfect compliment to Booker. I tend to believe that the Suns need a couple players as good or better than Bledsoe and Booker, not just one. I'm still not totally sold on Bledsoe being the long term solution at pg, but you can't deny that he's getting better and better and putting up great numbers right now. I'm still waiting for him to lift up the level of everyone else and make everyone else better. That might take a pick or two this year along with some of the young bigs to mature a little more and make a jump.

I agree. Suns need multiple pieces and NOT role player types. I'm as low on Bledsoe here as they come. He has definitely improved. I too wish he'd make other players better. I'd love to see it. Those knees though

I'm intrigued with the Favors rumors. I'd view him as a center in today's fast paced league. From what I remember he can run the floor and is a tenacious shot blocker and rebounder. Not sure what we have to offer though. IF I were GM I'd go hard for George and then try to pull off Favors. Depends on how you feel about this year's pick though.

IMO George > this year's pick
Favors < this year's pick

[In2ition]

Favors? meh

I could see going after George in the off-season, giving up the '18 pick and other stuff. I just really don't want to give up the '17 pick, as I think it could be as good or better than the current players and even George

[djy2j]

Favors? meh

I could see going after George in the off-season, giving up the '18 pick and other stuff. I just really don't want to give up the '17 pick, as I think it could be as good or better than the current players and even George

I'd totally do Dudley plus a lottery protected pick for Favors. Utah would be selling low on him though. But he's clearly not in their future with Gobert.

The one thing I always forget to keep in mind on the lottery is that NONE of those guys are a lock to be a superstar. They are all incredibly young. There is still a TON of chance involved. I get excited about a Fultz or a Ball but there is still a low percentage they become a superstar. George is already there. Jussayin

[ShelC]

I have no interest in Favors.

[TOO]

I have no interest in Favors.

Same.

The only back up C i want is Kanter. Yes, I know he's attrocious defensively, but I think him and Len would be a good combo.

[In2ition]

Favors? meh

I could see going after George in the off-season, giving up the '18 pick and other stuff. I just really don't want to give up the '17 pick, as I think it could be as good or better than the current players and even George

I'd totally do Dudley plus a lottery protected pick for Favors. Utah would be selling low on him though. But he's clearly not in their future with Gobert.

The one thing I always forget to keep in mind on the lottery is that NONE of those guys are a lock to be a superstar. They are all incredibly young. There is still a TON of chance involved. I get excited about a Fultz or a Ball but there is still a low percentage they become a superstar. George is already there. Jussayin

You're right he is, but maybe there would be a way of keeping the 1st and still pull PG away with a package.