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Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:16 am

I like that he’s showing a major willingness to spend money

He is, but he’s also letting it be known that he is, flaunting it.

Where do we think those nuggets from Woj are coming from “highest paid assistant” “huge raise for Fizdale”

Very likely could be from Ishbia. Could be from Fiz and Young’s agents too

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:16 am

I like that he’s showing a major willingness to spend money

What a nice change as a Suns fan!

It will be interesting to see if Vogel or anyone else at the presser is asked about Ayton today.

I liked this sentence from the Suns' press release: "His creativity and ability to build relationships were also significant factors as Vogel has established the skill to connect with and develop players, and to construct a dynamic coaching staff."

Nice breakdown of Vogel here coming off his time in LA. I don't think we have any divas or drama who will present problems for him (maybe one?). If too many ISO plays were an issue for us in the playoffs, that may not change unless he lets Young get creative and throw in some sets. But we'll also need to add some players we can trust with the ball as well.

Vogel is such a nerd. Hahaha.

Frank sounds like he wants to build the whole team around Deandre Ayton. Hahahaha. Too bad nobody informed him that Ayton's getting traded.

"We're gonna be scrappy as hell" - Frank Vogel

Okay, can't wait till training camp.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:36 pm

Frank sounds like he wants to build the whole team around Deandre Ayton. Hahahaha. Too bad nobody informed him that Ayton's getting traded.

Starting to love this move. If you have an alienated talent, this might he how you get him back. Let's see how they work out.

When I think of DA, the word "scrappy" is absolutely the first word that comes to mind.

I don't know where he said he wanted to build around DA. But we have Book and KD, so building around a center that gives effort for about 1/4 of the game sounds like a solid plan.

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:41 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:36 pm

Frank sounds like he wants to build the whole team around Deandre Ayton. Hahahaha. Too bad nobody informed him that Ayton's getting traded.

Starting to love this move. If you have an alienated talent, this might he how you get him back. Let's see how they work out.

Babying a guy who doesn't always work or play with max effort is also a great way to alienate the rest of the team that's breaking its ass in practice and in games.

Did he literally talk about Ayton? Or just about big man role in his defense?

ShelC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:52 pm

When I think of DA, the word "scrappy" is absolutely the first word that comes to mind.

I don't know where he said he wanted to build around DA. But we have Book and KD, so building around a center that gives effort for about 1/4 of the game sounds like a solid plan.

He was speaking about defensively mainly, which is where his focus always is.

He spoke about Ayton, but you can't expect him not to in this setting.

If Vogel can get Ayton to reach his potential I’m all for it…I’m not too optimistic. I also think they could just be talking about him this way as a trade tactic

ShelC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:53 pm

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:41 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:36 pm

Frank sounds like he wants to build the whole team around Deandre Ayton. Hahahaha. Too bad nobody informed him that Ayton's getting traded.

Starting to love this move. If you have an alienated talent, this might he how you get him back. Let's see how they work out.

Babying a guy who doesn't always work or play with max effort is also a great way to alienate the rest of the team that's breaking its ass in practice and in games.

Good point. KD and Book have an opinion already. I wish we knew where they were with him. Good on them not leaking shit - either says they’re ok with giving him another go or not causing a circus / diminishing his trade value.

Drewsprocket wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:54 pm

Did he literally talk about Ayton? Or just about big man role in his defense?

He mentioned DA by name before anyone else did, and then he was asked about DA before saying "the big fella" when talking about defense. Then he was asked about Ayton later and said he can be one of the best centers in the NBA, and talked about him destroying his Lakers in the playoffs.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:53 pm

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:41 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:36 pm

Frank sounds like he wants to build the whole team around Deandre Ayton. Hahahaha. Too bad nobody informed him that Ayton's getting traded.

Starting to love this move. If you have an alienated talent, this might he how you get him back. Let's see how they work out.

Babying a guy who doesn't always work or play with max effort is also a great way to alienate the rest of the team that's breaking its ass in practice and in games.

"Babying" is the last thing you'll get from Vogel.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:56 pm

If Vogel can get Ayton to reach his potential I’m all for it…I’m not too optimistic. I also think they could just be talking about him this way as a trade tactic

This doesn't sound like it: "But I'm intent on really connecting with him and restoring him to an All-Star level player."

Sounds like he thinks Monty broke him.