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Yup.

Get #1 or #2 = yay
Get #3 = ok I guess
Get #4 = meh
Get #5 = cry

Aside from Fultz, I think 2-5 is pretty interchangeable. It then depends on who we pick, if we go after a Markkanen then I'll be sad. But any one of Fox/Ball/Jackson/Tatum and I'm happy.

Superbone wrote:Here's where I've settled on the lottery as far as how I'll feel about it. We'll probably get the 4th pick since it has the highest odds for an individual pick for us. If we get 1-3, we got lucky. If we get 5, we had bad luck. If we get 1 or 2, I'll be ecstatic.

12 days and counting...

I'm thinking Nº 3 myself. 1st or 2nd would be equally great, 4th mildly dissapointed and 5th would be Suns' luck at full display. I'm on the "please stay away from Lavar" train, specially considering Fultz at least as good prospect. If he is out of the board when we pick, I would take Jackson over Ball. But this dream scenario got fixed in my mind after that "what if" Porzingis trade talk from past threads.

We sent Bledsoe, the 1st and Chriss to Phil, in exchange of Porzingis, their 7th and Noah. We take Frank Ntilikina, and swap Knight for Rubio to hold the fort while we develop the pick.

Rubio/Ulis/Ntilikina
Booker/ Barbosa
Warren/DJJ
Porzingis/Bender
Chandler/Noah/Williams

this latest Lonzo news -- the $500 shoes -- is a Ball buster for me.
or, i could say,
the 2nd shoe has dropped
sure, as usual, this can be blamed on his dad
but, he's old enough to man-up and he's not showing the signs

if the Suns pick 2nd (and lower than the Lakers), how about switching pick positions with them for a player or future pick?

No one is going to spend $500 on shoes. How ridiculous and out of touch are they? Do they realize how much pressure he's putting on his son to succeed? What if he's a bust? They will be a laughing stock for years. My opinion is changing from a father that nurtured his sons' talents & wanted to shake up the paradigm to a complete and total loon.

Edit: I think this makes what Marbury does look pretty awesome in return. He makes shoes that are basically the same quality on his own but sells them for $15.The most expensive shoes on his site are $50 and they are metallic colors and light up around the base or something.

https://twitter.com/SHAQ/status/860234184144461824 My favorite reaction.

My sig represents what I hope we do if we land #4 or #5. Trade for multiple dudes. Although, I might change my mind and start liking Tatum.

I'm honestly not that big a fan of Jackson and will be mildly disappointed if we end up with him.

If we end up with the 2nd pick and NY or LA is 3rd, wouldn't you almost expect Lavar to try to strongarm the Suns into passing on Lonzo?

Would he have a problem with Boston if the Cs took him?

ShelC wrote:I'm honestly not that big a fan of Jackson and will be mildly disappointed if we end up with him.

I will admit that my entire knowledge of college basketball comes from watching a few tournament games and some YouTube videos. But I just don't see much about Jackson that I find impressive. He seems profoundly mediocre to me, both in terms of athleticism and shooting. I don't get the appeal and I don't see a lot of star potential. I think getting a top-2 pick will have way, way more impact than having pick #3.

If the Suns were to get a top 2-3 pick and identify a future all-nba pg of the future, I wouldn't be opposed to trading Bledsoe and an asset to get another lottery pick to get Monk. In today's game, you need outside shooters, and if the pg is a pass first pg, you want to fill the floor with shooters all the time. Frankly, the Suns need a backup to Booker and/or another running mate if they move him from time to time in the game to running point or briefly at sf. I would love to see them start to run the 7SOL offense as soon as next year with a team like that.

I know many will say that Monk as unneeded and unnecessary with Booker, but you never have enough shooters and athletes.

In2ition wrote:If the Suns were to get a top 2-3 pick and identify a future all-nba pg of the future, I wouldn't be opposed to trading Bledsoe and an asset to get another lottery pick to get Monk. In today's game, you need outside shooters, and if the pg is a pass first pg, you want to fill the floor with shooters all the time. Frankly, the Suns need a backup to Booker and/or another running mate if they move him from time to time in the game to running point or briefly at sf. I would love to see them start to run the 7SOL offense as soon as next year with a team like that.

I know many will say that Monk as unneeded and unnecessary with Booker, but you never have enough shooters and athletes.

I really like Monk, and wouldn't be too sad to get him. But I think he's too good to be a bench player, especially with a star PG and SG already on the team. He's going to be good, though.

O_Gardino wrote:

In2ition wrote:If the Suns were to get a top 2-3 pick and identify a future all-nba pg of the future, I wouldn't be opposed to trading Bledsoe and an asset to get another lottery pick to get Monk. In today's game, you need outside shooters, and if the pg is a pass first pg, you want to fill the floor with shooters all the time. Frankly, the Suns need a backup to Booker and/or another running mate if they move him from time to time in the game to running point or briefly at sf. I would love to see them start to run the 7SOL offense as soon as next year with a team like that.

I know many will say that Monk as unneeded and unnecessary with Booker, but you never have enough shooters and athletes.

I really like Monk, and wouldn't be too sad to get him. But I think he's too good to be a bench player, especially with a star PG and SG already on the team. He's going to be good, though.

Maybe in the future, but why couldn't he come off the bench and earn the starting lineup?

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

ShelC wrote:I'm honestly not that big a fan of Jackson and will be mildly disappointed if we end up with him.

I will admit that my entire knowledge of college basketball comes from watching a few tournament games and some YouTube videos. But I just don't see much about Jackson that I find impressive. He seems profoundly mediocre to me, both in terms of athleticism and shooting. I don't get the appeal and I don't see a lot of star potential. I think getting a top-2 pick will have way, way more impact than having pick #3.

His shooting is definitely mediocre, but his athleticism is not. His appeal is that he's a 2 way player who is very versatile on offense and defense. I think there is a very real possibility he's never a star, think Andre Iguodala. But if his jump shot is legit, he could be special. He's 6'8, athletic, handles like a guard and sees the floor very well. He's a better prospect than Kawhi was coming into the NBA. I don't think he'll be Kawhi, but he's got some of that in his game.

I do think he'll have some struggles as a primary option, which is why I see him more as the Philly version of Iggy than Kawhi or Jimmy Butler, but no one really thought Kawhi or Butler would be good primary options either.

I think he'll compliment booker perfectly. He'll cover for him defensively, will be a secondary play maker and he moves well without the ball. A jump shot is really all he's missing. And his jumper isn't broken, he shot 37-38% from the college 3

At times Josh Jackson looks like a poor man Lebron. I am very interested.

In2ition wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:

In2ition wrote:If the Suns were to get a top 2-3 pick and identify a future all-nba pg of the future, I wouldn't be opposed to trading Bledsoe and an asset to get another lottery pick to get Monk. In today's game, you need outside shooters, and if the pg is a pass first pg, you want to fill the floor with shooters all the time. Frankly, the Suns need a backup to Booker and/or another running mate if they move him from time to time in the game to running point or briefly at sf. I would love to see them start to run the 7SOL offense as soon as next year with a team like that.

I know many will say that Monk as unneeded and unnecessary with Booker, but you never have enough shooters and athletes.

I really like Monk, and wouldn't be too sad to get him. But I think he's too good to be a bench player, especially with a star PG and SG already on the team. He's going to be good, though.

Maybe in the future, but why couldn't he come off the bench and earn the starting lineup?

He could! But you do need to have a long term plan for this draft. I like his game a lot, and I think he'll be a legit scorer in the NBA. I just don't know how to fit him into this team. It would be a good problem to have.

Split T wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

ShelC wrote:I'm honestly not that big a fan of Jackson and will be mildly disappointed if we end up with him.

I will admit that my entire knowledge of college basketball comes from watching a few tournament games and some YouTube videos. But I just don't see much about Jackson that I find impressive. He seems profoundly mediocre to me, both in terms of athleticism and shooting. I don't get the appeal and I don't see a lot of star potential. I think getting a top-2 pick will have way, way more impact than having pick #3.

His shooting is definitely mediocre, but his athleticism is not. His appeal is that he's a 2 way player who is very versatile on offense and defense. I think there is a very real possibility he's never a star, think Andre Iguodala. But if his jump shot is legit, he could be special. He's 6'8, athletic, handles like a guard and sees the floor very well. He's a better prospect than Kawhi was coming into the NBA. I don't think he'll be Kawhi, but he's got some of that in his game.

I do think he'll have some struggles as a primary option, which is why I see him more as the Philly version of Iggy than Kawhi or Jimmy Butler, but no one really thought Kawhi or Butler would be good primary options either.

I think he'll compliment booker perfectly. He'll cover for him defensively, will be a secondary play maker and he moves well without the ball. A jump shot is really all he's missing. And his jumper isn't broken, he shot 37-38% from the college 3

Instead of being considered the next Kawhi, do you think he is more like a Pippen?

In2ition wrote:

Split T wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

ShelC wrote:I'm honestly not that big a fan of Jackson and will be mildly disappointed if we end up with him.

I will admit that my entire knowledge of college basketball comes from watching a few tournament games and some YouTube videos. But I just don't see much about Jackson that I find impressive. He seems profoundly mediocre to me, both in terms of athleticism and shooting. I don't get the appeal and I don't see a lot of star potential. I think getting a top-2 pick will have way, way more impact than having pick #3.

His shooting is definitely mediocre, but his athleticism is not. His appeal is that he's a 2 way player who is very versatile on offense and defense. I think there is a very real possibility he's never a star, think Andre Iguodala. But if his jump shot is legit, he could be special. He's 6'8, athletic, handles like a guard and sees the floor very well. He's a better prospect than Kawhi was coming into the NBA. I don't think he'll be Kawhi, but he's got some of that in his game.

I do think he'll have some struggles as a primary option, which is why I see him more as the Philly version of Iggy than Kawhi or Jimmy Butler, but no one really thought Kawhi or Butler would be good primary options either.

I think he'll compliment booker perfectly. He'll cover for him defensively, will be a secondary play maker and he moves well without the ball. A jump shot is really all he's missing. And his jumper isn't broken, he shot 37-38% from the college 3

Instead of being considered the next Kawhi, do you think he is more like a Pippen?

There are some similarities. Point forward skills, defense, size and athleticism are all there. Pippen was so good though, it's hard to make that comparison. I don't think Jackson will be as good defensively as pippen or Kawhi. They are both defensive player of the year level good

Pippen and Kawhi comparisons are redundant - their wing spans are enormous, jackson's is barely above his own height.

The thing about Jackson for me is his passing ability - he'd slot in nicely as a play making 3 which might negate bledsoe's limitations if that's how we decide to roll.